Obama Failure Thread Part V

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  1. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    Yeah, I was just trying to give Schapes a bit of a hard time, test his premises a little.

    I have read both Truman's and MacCarthur's speeches after the firing and what you says sounds about right. I think I can understand MacCarthur's frustration, though. During WWII the US was actually trying to win the war at any cost. Starting with the Korean war I think the US began developing the model -later perfected in Vietnam and most recently seen in Iraq- of sending troops with an ambiguous objective and then limiting the scope of their mission to the point of failure.
     
  2. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Representative Darrell Issa of California says the Libyan embassy requested more security. Another failure for President Obama.
     
  3. argentine soccer fan

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    Actually he did. He reached out to France, Poland, Russia etc.
     
  4. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
  5. dapip

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    You mean Issa as the guy who reported Fast and Furious and could not prove his point?
     
  6. Dr. Wankler

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  7. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Couldn't prove his point because Attorney General Holder has withheld documents.

    I guess CNN wasn't good enough on Libya.
     
  8. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
  9. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

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    this is from The Atlantic:

    talk about spin! "The White House's evolving timelie" is what it should have said.

    couching this as "how intelligence works" is the spin part. The White House told a big fib. whether there was a full-fledged report on the details regarding the Benghazi incident or not, characterizing it as a "random act of unkindness" was completely disingenuous.

    that's more like it.
     
  10. dapip

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    From now on, his name is Taboo and we will refer to him as "You-Know-Who" or "The Non-Facts Lord"... :p
     
  11. chad

    chad Member+

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    Heavenly.

    Also familiarity with being disingenuous doesn't make you more likely to be correct when you accuse others of being disingenuousness. Amen.
     
  12. HouseHead78

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    We are glad we have your opinion to balance out that of an expert in the field. Like voter ID, climate change, sex ed, economics, and countless other fields, we need folks with no experience but strong faith in their righteousness to counteract the tyranny of scientists who actually study them.
     
  13. raza_rebel

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    You need to respond to this Schapes

    Hell, I will make it easier for you

     
  14. raza_rebel

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    Can you read 8 links in 4 minutes? 5 links in 2 minutes? An entire link in a minute?
     
  15. raza_rebel

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    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/20...leaders-democrats-rothenberg-political-report

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/02/09/reaching-across-aisle-jobs-and-health-reform

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/world/americas/20iht-repubs.1.19516831.html

    I like this tidbit :
    And not only figuratively: http://manormaniac.blogspot.com/2012/09/reaching-across-aisle.html
     
  16. TheSlipperyOne

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    I love the containment strategy used on this thread to keep the bot from polluting others.
     
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  17. Schapes

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    Aug 20, 2001

    The first link said that he planned to reach across the aisle. Doesn't prove he did. The last link said he appointed some Republicans to his staff? Is that really reaching across the aisle? Not exactly high profile positions either. Any Republicans in his cabinet?

    So he has only reached across the aisle twice?
     
  18. phats_away

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    Jul 28, 2001
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  19. Schapes

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    Aug 20, 2001
    If Romney is elected President and doesn't follow through on that promise. The US people should go shopping for a new President.

    Just like all the promises Barack Obama has broken. That is why he needs to go. He hasn't gotten the job done.

    Barack Obama even said that if he doesn't turn the economy around - he will be a one term President.

    Same for Romney.
     
  20. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
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    Schapes Member

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  22. raza_rebel

    raza_rebel Member+

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    Go to the 2nd link as well. It is a .gov link and has a video.

    http://www.salon.com/2012/08/22/thomas_frank_obamas_squandered_hope/

    http://newsone.com/1509175/democrats-want-obama-to-stop-compromising-with-gop/

    http://www.voanews.com/content/obam...on-taxes-essential-step-111416204/131925.html

    http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-29/...ohn-boehner-energy-legislation?_s=PM:POLITICS

    http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-10/...gious-groups-religious-liberty?_s=PM:POLITICS

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/obama-debt-compromise_n_1875759.html



    You still need to address who Glenn Hubbard is, why he is important to the Romney campaign and this tidbit:

    Listen: It's been fun playing with talking points. I have work to do and will entertainment myself later.
     
  23. Schapes

    Schapes Member

    Aug 20, 2001
    Compromising should not be confused with reaching across the aisle. Compromise comes from President Obama realizing his agenda can't be passed. President Obama compromises out of necessity. Not because he wants to.
     
  24. Dr. Wankler

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    Dude, I went to grad school. I know how to pretend to have read entire bibliographies attached to the backs of scholarly articles.
     
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