RSL in 2012-13 CCL Running PBP/Discussion

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by 15 to 32, Jun 22, 2012.

  1. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    that last part is how we ended up with Gil instead of him being at Sporting.
    Given how that team/franchise has developed, I wonder if he regrets it?

    And Houston didn't protect Clark's rights. No expansion team took them. They could have, but they didn't. People all across the league were way confused when Portland made that pick. It made zero sense. The only way they get him is if he falls so far out of form across the pond that he can't find a gig anywhere and is in need of a last gasp recover. Why would you want that player?

    Get over the Findley thing. If he does come back to MLS, it won't be until the second half of next season at the earliest. RSL needs to go find a speedy guy from down south who isn't out of a job (Bonfigli) but is instead a good player that can compete (like Olave and Espy were)
     
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  2. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the bigger factor for Clark was when he gave the WC game to Ghana in '10. Seriously, who loses the ball like that in a WC match? :eek:
     
  3. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why keep bringing PJ into this? At the time of the draft, Paulo was a player that was making good on the promise overall. He was a speedy player that actually attacked the goal. It's not like we could've foreseen him picking up a season long injury and coming back less than stellar. At the time it was a wise choice to have him protected. The only time I'd ever consider protecting someone's rights is if they were head an shoulders above everyone else in talent. At the same time though, a player like that likely wouldn't be coming back within 3 years anyway, so even then it's probably not the best move. Findley is a good guy, but not so special that you throw away a spot on him.
     
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  4. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    And, Findley is still in England! So far, RSL has lost ****-all in the transaction. PJ hasn't been the best 3rd striker in the league (or even in the top half of 3rd strikers in the league), but it's not like we could've had Findley instead.

    Phills, it's time to drop this one. Unless Robbie returns to MLS and lights the league up in Portland, you have absolutely no case that RSLFO made a bad choice in protecting PJ.
     
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  5. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Herediano with the early PK to take the lead at home.

    But Tauro apparently isn't rolling over and giving up, scoring their first goal of the tournament to level 1-1 at 25 gone.
     
  6. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How big would a 1-1 draw be in this one? Are you streaming this? And where?
     
  7. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Found it 2-1 Herendiano at the half, there is still hope
     
  8. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They've reported the scores in the Toronto- Aguila game on Fox Soccer Channel.
     
  9. RSLer

    RSLer Member+

    Sep 24, 2008
    Stansbury Park, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full Time, Herediano 2-1 Tauro.
     
  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Props to Tauro for getting a goal and keeping it to 2-1 when they had no need to push at all.
     
  11. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Definitely doable. A 2 goal home win does the trick. RSL has to find their offense a bit before that game though.
     
  12. GoReal

    GoReal Member

    Jul 15, 2004
    Orem, Utah
    Why would RSL not move on to the quarterfinals with a 1-0 win over Herediano?
    What is the next tie-breaker after head to head?
     
  13. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the next tie-breaker was goal differential. If RSL wins 1-0, then it will be a tie in points, head to head results, goal differential, total goals scored, and total goals scored against. What tie breaker comes after GD?
     
  14. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paging Paul Calixte - when in doubt, page the CCL master!
     
  15. Blitzz Boy

    Blitzz Boy Member

    Apr 4, 2002
    The West Side
    ESPN's tracker said that there were a 4 Herediano players picked up yellow cards. Are any of them out for the next game?
     
  16. kman1456

    kman1456 Member

    Oct 28, 2007
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marvin Obando seems to have received yellow cards in consecutive games, so he is out. He is one of their starting defenders.
     
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  17. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you go here you can see we're behind by just one in wins, goal differential and goals scored -> http://soccernet.espn.go.com/tables/_/league/concacaf.champions/concacaf-champions-league?cc=5901

    Rules here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_CONCACAF_Champions_League_Group_Stage

    If RSL wins 1-0, I believe all the tiebreakers fail and it comes down to "drawing of lots". Any goal by Herediano gives them an edge on the #3 tiebreaker (head-to-head away goals). So a 2-1 RSL win would allow Herediano to advance.

    You really can't concede a goal unless you're up by 3. It's going to be difficult. Hopefully Herediano will freak out from travel and altitude. A 2 goal win gives it to RSL - but that's non-trivial.

    Feels like a game where Mick might hold Rocky back for 35 or 40 minutes and then unleash the hidden right and go for the kill down the stretch...and trust the back line, Rimando and altitude to keep a clean sheet.
     
  18. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    If RSL wins 1-0, then RSL's GD goes to +3, while Hered's goes from its current +3 to +2. Thus, RSL goes thru if they win 1-0.
     
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  19. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ugh you're right. Too late for math.
     
  20. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keeping the clean sheet with a 1-0 win is the easier path. Having to rely on winning 3-1 wouldn't be nearly as easy, imo.
     
  21. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry I'm late, did someone page me? :D

    Fortunately, RSL are one of the outfits that actually bothers to read tournament regulations, and they provided a thorough explanation of the necessary outcomes on their website.
     
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  22. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, without Sabo we have to defend like hell and hope for a goal
    Though, as they say, the best defense is a good offense.

    In the next few league games, Kreis needs to work on getting the team ready for this game. That means you need to rest Sabo. I don't mind him being a late sub, but this team needs to get minutes where it doesn't have Sabo on the pitch so they know what to do in this match.

    What are the odds we win 2-1? This feels like that FCD playoff matchup from 2 years ago where we kept our unbeaten home streak alive but lost on aggregate...
     
  23. RoyalNonesuch

    RoyalNonesuch Member+

    May 10, 2009
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We owe Tauro a thanks for being game and putting a goal in the net.
     
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  24. ShaggyReAL

    ShaggyReAL Awesome is my middle name

    Dec 9, 2009
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    shit. we need to chip in for another fruit basket?
     
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  25. DrownedElf

    DrownedElf Member+

    Jul 5, 2010
    Ogden
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could just get them some Chuck-A-Rama vouchers.

    I have a feeling this is going to be one difficult game. The instant they score, we can expect time wasting galore and an extreme bunker, especially if they score first.
     
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