Alert: Osama Bin Laden is Dead

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  1. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've always wonder why team isn't spelled teme - you see, the silent "e" would make the first "e" say its name - or so I've learned from my kid's leap frog dvd.
    I love silent e words!
     
  2. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
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    No, but there is an "m" and "e"
     
  3. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "But there is in 'win.'"

    --Michael Jordan
     
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  4. Roel

    Roel Member

    Jan 15, 2000
    Santa Cruz mountains
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    FYP. :D
     
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  5. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
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  6. minerva

    minerva Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Denver, CO
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yes, but there is also a "u" in team.
     
  7. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He promised a homer and delivered a single. He offered a considerably better economy and while it most certainly is improved, it wasn't that impressive when you look at how low Bush set the bar. I see the statistics about job growth but I see it from the perspective of someone that does a lot of hiring in my position. Never a shortage of applicants and it's honestly shocking to have the amount of post grads willing to work for $11 or $12 an hour that I do without even a promise of full time status. It's just not enough, not for a second term, not after the crap of the previous administration. Also not that it is entirely his doing but his personality which seemed so promising to aid in bringing together both sides ended up playing a part in it's bigger split.



    I'm actually fond of Bill Clinton, he came across as a used car salesman but he was calculating and got things done. He also owned his shit as good as he could for better or worse. Romney on the other hand I'm not sold on either, undecided for sure but I'm also not sold he could be all that worse.

    I'm smarter than that? You overestimate me:D The nature of the information isn't the issue for me, it's simply the fact that it was even discussed at all that bothers me. Special Operations are about secrecy plain and simple.
     
  8. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Equipo?
     
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  9. Cosmo_Kid

    Cosmo_Kid Member

    Jul 17, 2012
    I don't know how you can say it was Obama who was responsible for the gridlock and lack of bi-partisanship. Republicans decided from day one that they weren't going to cooperate. Mitch McConnel said that their #1 agenda was to make sure Obama was a one term President.

    Obama basically had 2 years to turn the economy around. The last 2 years all we have seen is republican obstruction. And the stimulus prevented us from going into either a depression or at the very least a prolonged recession. Remember, Republicans were advocating austerity. Look at what has happened to Britain because of austerity. Britain is in another recession.
     
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  10. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I said he wasn't entire his doing but he and his administration did play their part. Republicans are another matter, and far from free of any criticism. Reverse roles and put a Republican in the White House and the criticism would still apply. It has nothing to do with party or ideological preferences, my personal expectation of a POTUS is to be able to find a way, regardless of how to being the initiator of unity b/w both parties. I'm be fine with his playing hardball, line in the sand.....he couldn't do that and ultimately it's been desperately needed. I see it this way, regardless of which man ends up in office, we'll still see what I consider a snails pace and more division.

    As far as Great Britain's recession, maybe when the wife and I go back we'll have better exchange rates. Politically I don't have the highest expectations, I am from Argentina after all and based on what I've (and ASF) remember from growing up, it shouldn't take much to impress me.
     
  11. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    My own employment has been devastated for years after Obama entered office, and if I suspected that Romney would have done better or would do better after November I would vote for him. In my opinion the Republican rhetoric is just trying to play people like me for suckers, so people like Romney can double their Swiss bank accounts.

    It's like blaming the doctor because it's taking longer for you to recover from falling off a cliff than it did to recover from the ankle sprains you've had.
     
  12. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
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    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can already see how, had W. gotten OBL the McCain GOP convention would have looked like.... "Yes, we got him, whooohooo we got him!" would have been their only theme and they would have bragged about it to no end....Now they are sim[ply projecting what their reaction would have been ONTO Obama, 'cause i sure as hell ain't seeing Obama or his team using this event even remotely close to how GOP people would have....
     
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  13. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
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    Oh yes. We only had movies made about rescuing Jessica Lynch. Shhhh. Don't tell anyone.
     
  14. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    You don't think that the slugger brought in to dig you out rom 0-11 has done well, so you want the bookie who paid the previous pitcher to give up HRs as your new DH?
     
  15. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
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    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I actually had to check imdb. I really didn't know that until I read this post. At that time I was road tripping around Montana, Wyoming and Canada so access to a TV for close to four months was limited. That goes beyond face palm:oops: After that Obama's administration gets a pass on the matter.

    I'm seriously considering writing in Alfred E. Newman for President at this point.
     
  16. GiuseppeSignori

    Jun 4, 2007
    Chicago
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    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the 22nd amendment expressly prohibits voting for him again...

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
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    Argentina
    That's an insult to Alfred E. Newman.
     
  18. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    The American economy is massive and now tied to the globe - and no president has that much control over jobs that your post seems to suggest. I'm okay with blaming him for promising to give us all a pony - but to blame him for not delivering especially given how bad the economy was tanking from a massive real estate bubble and then completely hostile congress is misguided, in my opinion.
     
  19. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    Considering all those variables such as how bad the economy, housing bubble, congress and pony shortages why would a politician make those promises? To a degree it's like the Gitmo promise, did someone in his staff really think that with all the variables involved he could fulfill those promises to the degree we were led to believe?

    If any politician or candidate promises big they better know damn well know that they can deliver big regardless of what obstacles are placed before them.
     
  20. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Dec 15, 1999
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    Leicester City FC
    I agree that Obama promised the moon - I just don't think it's particularly unusual for someone trying to get elected to promise a lot (and he didn't realize the climate economically and politically would turn so sour) - especially given the obstacles Obama was facing. And I agree it's fine to hold him accountable for failed promises - I just think intelligent voters can separate the Politics from the reality. He was unlucky to have overseen the bubble bursting - but he also saved a lot of jobs through stimulus.

    I think there's a good MLS analogy in there somewhere - so busy avoiding the depression/NASL, while the masses just wonder why there aren't more jobs/DPs.
     
  21. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
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    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Argentina
    As a country don't we deserve better than to be promised the moon? He's actually done some decent things, I'm not arguing against that but it's turning out to be more of the same regardless of party affiliation. Maybe it really is time to push for a third party because the division between the two existing seems to be widening more than I ever remember it being since I've been here.
     
  22. tomwilhelm

    tomwilhelm Member+

    Dec 14, 2005
    Boston, MA, USA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We certainly deserve better than the GOP and Mitt Romney.
     
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  23. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    Maybe I only cared about the big promises to deliver a health care bill and to take the big presence out of Iraq, but to me it's delivered.

    The only other thing was the bipartisanship, and that can't be forced on the Republicans. They went into some survivalist armadillo shell, and hopefully they pay for it.

    Just curious, what were the moon promises otherwise? He took a look at gitmo and didn't do it, who cares?
     
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  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Maybe this can help us put things in perspective......

    8 years of Republican government brought us:

    9/11
    A Budget superavit was transformed in a rampant Deficit
    2 wars, 1 unnecessary, unfunded and unjustified.
    An economic crisis of proportions not seen in 80 yers

    After 4 years of Democrat government we have:

    OBL was killed
    Deficit reduced and if some taxcuts are allowed to expire a budget almost balanced.
    One war finished, the other one on its way
    The economy back under control and posed to create 12 million jobs in the next 4 years.
    A Healthcare reform that expands health coverage to 90-95% of the population.


    And some of you still want to go back to the same policies that almost broke the US? Really?
     
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  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Lots of people do. Same with killing muslims (and a targeted American here or there) with magic flying robots controlled with a joystick out of Langley. He's not starting wars out of whole cloth, but he's not holding to some of the basic ideals that he whacked Bush/McCain with in 2008. They prosecute whistleblowers everywhere and until a couple of months back, deported lots of immigrants for minor infractions.
     
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