[R] Adopted Cousin of Other MLS Teams' News Thread

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  1. Kayak

    Kayak Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Columbus
    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/1...-alexander-in-negotiations-to-purchase-dynamo
    The possible important parts for us still:

     
  2. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Rather eventful final 10 minutes at RFK. A made PK which had to be retaken and was missed, 3 red cards, and a fight between 2 DCU players.
     
  3. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    DCU implosion. :)

    Somewhere, Michael Mejido is smiling.
     
  4. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ref Jason Anno gives new meaning to "Play to the whistle" in NY vs. Portland.
     
  5. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
  6. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Makes even more sense when you read his injury history. I hope he does really well on the other side of the pond (and will bet he shows up in a Sunday league there somewhere)
     
  7. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
  8. JayFunkeyFresh

    Jul 10, 2004
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    He's from my hometown. I've played against him a few times. Always seemed like a good guy.
     
  9. patricksp

    patricksp 91.9 Crew Fan Rating

    Nov 4, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
  10. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
    They have space available if they like him, but if they don't want him I'm sure they'll trade and get something useful. That's why I love the allocation process within the league, it creates value out of nothing. Keller complained to Garber about it, but I think it's a great thing.

    San Jose should have the room, too, if they like him. Could see him being the final piece of the puzzle for them. And Chivas of course. Personally I'm glad to see him back in the fold.
     
  11. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I understand allocation in regards to something like returning Nats, but why the hell is this guy subject to allocation? I would think a team would have worked to sign him, not just that he is bored so he looks to MLS like an old lover he can be FWB with or something, so then the league basically puts him up for grabs or something.
     
  12. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    I gave up trying to figure out MLS rules years ago. It's easier on the liver I tell you.
     
  14. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any international player who left the league for a fee and then returns to the league is subject to the Allocation process, provided his original team has already spent their portion of the transfer money.
     
  15. HardHatMike

    HardHatMike DOOOOOOOOM!

    Traktor Nebraska
    Aug 31, 2005
    Lincoln, Nebraska
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone else wondering whether the current Lance Armstrong news will affect SKC's stadium if the Livestrong brand goes belly up?
     
  16. SourCream&OnionUtd

    Nov 19, 1998
     
  17. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it will depend on whether the UCI decides to strip the Tour titles or not. As I understand it, USADA doesn't have the jurisdiction to make the call on the titles. Just the ban.
     
  18. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The day after the news broke, LiveStrong had a 30% increase in donations over the previous day. (I'll admit that doesn't mean much.) The word from the fans of Lance the Cancer Survivor seems to be "Well, he's done so much to fight cancer, what's it really mean that he may have cheated?"


    http://www.dispatch.com/content/sto...nished-armstrong-is-still-an-inspiration.html
     
  19. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Isn't the whole sport of cycling rife with doping? Wasn't Armstrong tested regularly at the time and he's now being retroactively punished?
     
  20. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's the way I'm looking at it.

    I mean, I never stopped being suspicious in the first place. The whole sport is dirty. You're really telling me that the one guy who had just recovered from a life-threatening illness and kicked all the other cheaters' asses for seven straight years was the one guy who WASN'T cheating?

    But that said... he never failed a test. And now, they're just, what, taking people's word over test results now? What's the point of even having the tests, then?

    I honestly don't blame Armstrong for taking the position he's taking. He's been fighting this for years, he's not racing competitively anymore, and it was most likely never going to stop. I think he's just done with the whole thing.
     
  21. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Just to reemphasize this whole point (and especially the bolded part).... How many times has Lance said something like, "I've never failed a test, and I've been tested more than anyone else. EVER." vs. "I've never doped."

    There's obviously a strong difference, and my understanding is that WADA didn't develop a reliable test for EPO and blood doping until the year 2000, so it's entirely plausible that Lance was doing things that there was no test for. If there's no test for them, are they illegal?

    In some ways, it's the same thing as back when Mark McGwire (sp?) admitted he was using that andro creme stuff. It was a PED, but it wasn't against baseball's rules yet. Obviously, later he admitted to using a whole bunch of other stuff too, but that was the first big controversy.
     
  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To me this whole Lance Armstrong thing boils down to this:

    The guy tested negative over 500 times, but the USADA has 10 guys who say they saw him blood doping.

    So therefore, he's guilty.

    But if there was even 1 POSITIVE blood test but 10 guys who would testify that they were with him every hour of every day for all those years and never once saw him do anything ilegal, what would the result be?

    In the first case, the USADA is saying that blood tests don't matter because they have witnesses.

    But in the second case the USADA would say "witnesses don't matter matter; blood testing trumps witness testimony"

    Is this really how justice works?

    And remember, the USADA is a fully-funded agency of the Federal Government.

    The WADA has cleared the guy. The US Justice Dept. took a long look at the whole thing, including these "witnesses" and decided earlier this year that there was no case they dared take to a judge.

    Only this one bunch of unelected bureaucrats looking to hang some horns on their wall decided to declare him guilty.

    It's a horrible sham and the game is rigged against him and he has no legal recourse and he really had no alternative except to say what he said.

    Look at how they screwed Alberto Contador of SPain who won the Tour in 2010: he tested positive for a non-therapeutic level of clenbuterol which, the CAS agreed, was more than likely from some meat he had eaten (just like the Mexico soccer team).

    They then said that they were banning him for a year because there was no good reason not to, and added ANOTHER year because the Prime Minister of Spain told reporters he thought the entire process was a joke.

    Armstrong wasn't about to submit himself to those clowns.

    The UCI has yet to say whether they will accept the USADA findings and strip Armstrong of his titles, but they are empahtically making the point that the USADA cannot strip anyone of a TdF title.

    Because, oddly, the TdF is not subject to review by pisspot agencies of the US Government.
     
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  23. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm wondering too, if maybe the Armstrong camp hasn't had some behind the scenes conversation with the UCI about it, and felt confident enough that the tour titles wouldn't be stripped? That to me is really THE IMPORTANT THING in all of this. Will the titles be vacated? That's the black mark, or the Scarlet Letter "C" if you will.

    There's really no doubt in my mind that Lance was doing things that were across the line, or right at the line. It's the culture of the sport (unfortunately). It's clear that the vast majority of the peloton in those years was also doing it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
     
  24. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But if you're suspicious enough to ask, for whatever reason, is hearing the response "I've never doped" going to persuade you to think differently? I doubt it. Because Lance Armstrong, or Barry Bonds, or Mother Teresa can SAY whatever they feel like saying, and you have no way of knowing if it's the truth or not.

    But saying "I've never failed a test" is something concrete that can't be refuted. He HASN'T ever failed a test. And when you've been tested hundreds, if not thousands of times, that carries a hell of a lot more weight than simply saying "I'm clean."

    Again... this isn't me saying he's not cheating. He very well could be, and could just be smarter than all the people chasing him. I have no way of knowing. But as Bill already summed up (better than I could have), why bother having the tests if you're going to ignore the results? What's to stop seven or eight guys who are getting their asses kicked from hatching up a story to go after the next great cyclist, if that's all it takes?
     
  25. osubowler

    osubowler Member

    Apr 7, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So.....how about that MLS action? Montero stays on fire and Seattle crushes Chivas on the road 6-2. Kicking myself for releasing him off my fantasy team right before he got hot.
     

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