Rumor: Tim Cahill

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Arteta's Girl, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. badideas

    badideas Member

    Dec 22, 2010
    That's what I'm saying -- is that in my view, DeRo plays that role as well, or better than Cahill. So it's confusing to me that Cahill would be brought in to fill that same role, instead of the idea I suggested on the last page. Personally, I don't think DeRo ever got a fair shake, and Henry had nothing but praise for him ("the face of the league," saying he didn't know why management moved him on, etc.). Maybe Cahill will be able to be more of a playmaker in MLS, though.
     
  2. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Yeah I see what you're saying, but from what we know of his workrate maybe Cahill will work a little harder on defense (something De Ro never did) while still making those late runs into the box. That would leave at least a little bit more room for Henry to work in the area in front of the box.
     
  3. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is what I want to see. I would like this a lot. Doesn't involve too many changes from what they are playing now.

    We didn't get Cahill here to play as a forward or a withdrawn forward. We traded for Le Toux as someone who can play as a forward and since he is so versatile he can play right mid extremely well.
     
  4. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty excited about this acquisition, I don't think he'll play at Saputo Stadium, but I think his first match will be @ Houston...wasn't that Henry's first league match as an RBNY player back in 2010?
     
  5. RedBullFootball

    Apr 7, 2008
    Man are we STACKED!
     
  6. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    We have seven hard workers, tenacious and talented players in our team: Conde, Henry, Lindpere, McCarty, Le Toux, Lade and so what I have been reading Cahill too, so:
    Will be a waste of talents if you live out side the line up the best peons you have, and that is why the 3-5-2 is imperative line up; to get them at the same time on the field...

    McCarty.....Lindpere
    Le Toux...............Lade
    Cahill
    Cooper......Henry
     
  7. TX Bill

    TX Bill Member+

    Apr 3, 2006
    Sugar Land TX
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well congrats to NY on getting a very good player and a quality person. I'm sure you've seen these words before but just in case, I'll say them again. Everton Legend. Personified Everton for eight years in terms of coming to play every match and leaving it on the field.

    I think Evertonians knew it was time for him to go but it still hurts. Does his best work in the box and always pops up with a goal. Make sure your corner flags have a bit of reinforcement on them.

    Great for NY.

    Sucks for my Dynamo as this just makes NY that much more dangerous than they already were. I'd say that it makes NY the Eastern Conf. favorite (not that you weren't already but even more so now...with all due respect to Sporting KC).

    Lastly, I hope that he's coming to Houston on Aug 3. That's the one day I'll be wearing my Everton shirt instead of my Dynamo shirt in honor of one Tim Cahill.
     
  8. Scubaroo

    Scubaroo New Member

    Jul 25, 2012
    Club:
    Melbourne Victory
    You won't have a problem with cahill, everton legend and probably australias most influential player of the last decade. Will work hard defensively and can beat anyone in the air. Dangerous in the box. Can and has played as a lone striker for everton and australia but would be suited as a box to box midfield playing just under the strikers. Hope he does well for you guys, he was very important for australia recently in a wcq against japan. We wanted him back in australia in the a-league but mls is a good move, unfortunately our big name players think of out league as a joke.
     
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  9. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    uh. you only going to play 3 defenders? no GK? you can only have 6 guys in the Midfield/Forward positions otherwise ... you've got one too many.
     
  10. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dyer tweeted something pretty funny today:

    Backe on RBNY formation: "I’d say we play a 2-4-4 probably, I would say so, just to be a little bit, how to say, arrogant."
    https://twitter.com/kristianrdyer

    Ha!
     
  11. ag nigrin

    ag nigrin Member

    Mar 4, 2002
    NJ, USA
  12. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    as for where Cahill will play. he had a number of starts in the EPL last season where he started in a CM role either in a 4-2-3-1 or even a 4-4-2. and if he can do it in the EPL he can surely do it in MLS.

    now is his natural position probably 2nd striker/CAM? sure. even in CM along side Dax would he be the more offensive of the two? yes. but i think it is pretty clear that he doesn't have to play as far forward as everybody is thinking that he will cause trouble with Henry. he is very versatile and has experience in a league that is faster and more physical than even MLS playing more centrally.
     
  13. OleGunnar20

    OleGunnar20 Member+

    Dec 7, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  14. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pipe dream.

    If only.
     
  15. ag nigrin

    ag nigrin Member

    Mar 4, 2002
    NJ, USA
    Got to give credit to Soler for trying... The man is learning MLS! Now if Backe would sub earlier and more often then things would be really moving forward!
     
  16. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When he has most of his roster available he usually makes the right subs at the right time.

    When we're riddled with injuries he leaves the starting 11 out there for 90 minutes regardless of who is on the bench.

    It's somewhat understandable...and somewhat not.
     
  17. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Totally disagree - although he's probably gotten better at listening to Henry, I mean making subs.
     
  18. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm surprise that you totally disagree with this.

    IMO at the beginning of the season when we had "relative health" he was making timely and correct substitutions.

    When people started going down with injuries he put the right bench players in the starting 11 but he refused to use many of the remaining bench players as subs.

    The Henry thing is a bit new (although I seem to remember it happening once or twice in the past) and (IMO) is still a reflection of Backe refusing to use his bench because he probably believes (rightly or wrongly so) that it would hurt the team more than it would help it.
     
  19. packy

    packy Member

    Mar 21, 1999
    Really like this 3-5-2 with Barkledge, Conde and Pearce as the defenders
     
  20. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Well to be honest - I haven't noticed it quite as much this season but before this season most of backe's Red Bull career has been not making obvious subs, waiting too long, making no subs, and running players into the ground. The injuries have made it harder for me to assess whether he's really improved.
     
  21. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Again, since our depth was $hit the past 2 seasons I think he refused to use his bench because he probably believed (rightly or wrongly so) that it would hurt the team more than it would help it.

    I was SHOCKED at the start of the season how often he was making substitutions. And the right substitutions! At the right time! Look at the box scores. He used 2-3 subs almost every game.

    And then everyone got injured. :(
     
  22. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Is that you Backe disguised?.....
     
  23. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I agree with Metz :). You are giving him waaaay too much of a pass for previous seasons.
     
  24. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not giving him a "pass". I'm simply trying to explain what I think is going on in the "clever" Hans Backe brain.
     
  25. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    In my opinion the unqualified statement "When he has most of his roster available he usually makes the right subs at the right time." is giving a pass to someone who has mostly been putrid at in game management for much of his time here.
     

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