News: Garber: YSA Chant Needs to Stop

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by MasterShake29, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From an interview with MLS Commissioner Don Garber from the Sporting News:


    I agree completely.
     
  2. defendyourself

    Jul 13, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    +1, I am not even against cursing at game, but it is just so uncreative.
     
  3. Slim_Tim501

    Slim_Tim501 Member

    May 19, 2010
    North Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wouldn't mind stopping YSA. I'm not against cursing either, just think we could do better.

    While we're on the subject, let's stop "We Love Ya" as well. It gets tiring when every. single. other. team. sings it as well.
     
  4. Dyvel

    Dyvel Member+

    Jul 24, 1999
    The dog end of a day gone by
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    It always cracks me up to hear it.
     
  5. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then tell everyone else to stop it because we started it
     
  6. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed - we can do better. I wish we would

    But it doesn't make Garber right. Just makes him an overbearing and heavy-handed asshole.

    And stuff like this just makes it that much more difficult to get rid of it.
     
  7. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah it so played out. I don't care about cursing at games but this has become so old and unfunny.
     
  8. wtimkey2016

    wtimkey2016 Member

    Oct 11, 2011
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am neutral on this chant. I'll sing it, but I really wouldn't mind stopping it for the good of mls.
     
  9. Usmaman

    Usmaman Member

    Jun 22, 2005
    NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    YSA is the chant equivalent of comfort food. It's not great or creative, and anyone will admit that. But it's one of the few chants that is a) relatively original to the United States, and b) easily spread throughout the stadium.

    I don't mind it, and I don't understand why so many American supporters are willing to let the FCC, or Don Garber or whomever, stop one of the few universal American supporter traditions. But of course, I'm not the one being threatened with lifetime bans or whatever.
     
    urtel repped this.
  10. GMangs

    GMangs Red Card

    Apr 21, 2012
    NJ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    God forbid little Johnny hears someone say asshole at a sporting event. Poor kids will be traumatized. What a joke.
     
  11. RedBullFootball

    Apr 7, 2008
    I think chanting "Y S A" might even be more amusing in a tounge in cheek kind of way.
     
    dwsmith1972 repped this.
  12. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the 2 part interview that Don Garber had with the Sporting News:

    Garber was at the Arean during last wednesday's afternoon "Heat Bowl" game and was angered at loud YSA chants during a heavily marketed family day in front of live tv broadcast.

    Full Interview:
    Part 1: http://aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/...r-mls-commissioner-sporting-news-conversation
    Part 2: http://aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2012-07-21/sporting-news-conversation-don-garber-part-ii
     
  13. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. YSA is stupid.
     
  14. Slim_Tim501

    Slim_Tim501 Member

    May 19, 2010
    North Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Garber say he was trying to do away with the family day marketing? I thought he had learned his lesson 10+ years ago when he saw how miserable catering to the soccer moms was.
     
  15. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The family day thing this time around was not a league initiative--it was an internal Red Bull idea proposed and executed by Chris Heck. However that doesn't take away from the validity of what Garber is saying and the stupidity of what happened last wednesday.

    I'm not going to get into the whole debate of "censorship" of supporter's section---but I am a partisan of common sense. And unfortunately there was little of it shown during that game. Heck didnt use his common sense by scheduling a game in the middle of the day on one of the hottest summers on record. Likewise, the supporters didn't use their common sense by loudly yelling YSA in a stadium full of kids in front of live tv cameras. When Garber says that the league's tv partners have complained to him about the league doing something to rein in profanity during live broadcasts I am inclined to believe him. It no longer becomes just a free speech issue--it is a "hurting the league business" issue and the FCC starts getting involved and harassing the league and its tv partners.
     
  16. dwsmith1972

    dwsmith1972 BigSoccer Supporter

    May 11, 2007
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    +1
     
  17. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    to the tune of the Village People's "YMCA" :p
    When opposing GK has goalkick
    "It's fun to say Y-S-A!!":laugh:

    just the letters mind you......
     
    NeilB repped this.
  18. metroflip73

    metroflip73 Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *snicker*

    And with respect to "We Love Ya", we are pretty much the only team in the league that does it the very first 5 mins of the game and then shelves it for the next 85.

    So it stays.
     
  19. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the pu$$yification of America continues...sigh.

    There are a million things wrong with the world and with MLS. This shouldn't even make the list.

    Newsflash: Grown men like to drink beer, watch sports, and curse. It's been this way since the dawn of time. If my saying "YSA" at a pro sporting event is destroying a child's development that's not on me. That's on the parents. My Dad used to take me to games and made it very clear that the language there is reserved for adults only and if he ever heard it come out of my mouth I would pay for it. Done deal.
     
    GMangs and idriveavw repped this.
  20. tigersoccer2005

    tigersoccer2005 Member+

    Dec 1, 2003
    North Bergen, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're only looking at it from the social aspect---but you're failing to see the bottom line that the league is concerned with. Their TV partners have started to complain on multiple occasions to Garber that the profanity in some stadiums in MLS is getting to be too much/too loud.Unfortunately RBA seems to be one of those stadiums.TV stations are trying to mike stadiums differently and still the chants in some stadiums pose problems. If the league's business partners have problems with YSA then instantly it becomes a league problem as well. Money always wins out. I think it probably wont be too long before the league does something to address this situation (most likely in a clumsy and heavy handed manner) if the supporters can't solve it or police it on their own.

    I think there's a place in every stadium for supporter culture, but at the same time no one likes it when a line is crossed from fun and creative to boorish or immature behavior taken too far. Absolutely no need to be yelling YSA at the top of your lungs....
     
  21. GMangs

    GMangs Red Card

    Apr 21, 2012
    NJ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    We agree on something!
     
  22. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    The funny thing is that the kids like it more than anyone.
     
    kokoplus10 repped this.
  23. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still think it's funny/fun. Not very creative? Yes. But still funny.

    It's a very quick fix for the broadcasters. Simply adjust the levels when there's a goal kick. It's not that hard. They place special mikes near the supporters section to make the broadcasts sound like there are more fans in the stadium. All you have to do is turn that level down for 5 seconds.
     
  24. kokoplus10

    kokoplus10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 5, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Truth. And if the kids LIKE IT guess what those kids will be doing when the grow up? Buying tickets to the games!
     
  25. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Tell Mr. Garber that my 11-yo son loves the chant and giggles every time he hears it. In fact, when I'm coaching his U-12 team, if he is subbed off the field, he will whisper to me on the bench "you suck bleep-hole!" and start giggling when the opposing 'keeper takes a goal kick.

    So, as far as YSA goes, its intended audience loves it.
     
    kokoplus10 repped this.

Share This Page