Alert: Countdown to the Euro's!!!

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by benni..., May 22, 2012.

  1. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Doesn't matter. At the end of the day, this is the best international side of all time.

    They can easily rival the greatest club teams of all time too.
     
  2. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    My comment is more about people who say that today's teams can't hold a candle to teams of the past.

    Head to head that is simply not true.

    Football is always evolving to superior tactics and performance
     
  3. Malcolm91

    Malcolm91 Member

    May 29, 2007
    Brasilia
    I don't know about the players becoming better. A better performance and a better player are not equal.

    We are not monkeys. While total90s and synthetic balls will make the performance better, we can consider this while looking at past players and stop short of calling them better players.
     
  4. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    They should build a monument for Pedro and his greatness.
     
  5. Karloski

    Karloski Member+

    Oct 26, 2006
    England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Because apparently he has an assist that wasn't an assist.
     
  6. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Yep.
     
  7. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I think what people are saying, is the overall player quality is less now than 10-15 years ago. What is different though, is that the top quality players that do exist, are highly concentrated in the number of teams they represent. That's the crux of the matter IMO.
     
  8. Malcolm91

    Malcolm91 Member

    May 29, 2007
    Brasilia
    I.E. "Iniesta's through ball there was better than Garrincha's back then, but wow, Garrincha was doing that on such a poor pitch, using such poor boots, with such a poor ball."

    This is something that we must be able to rationlise, eventually reaching the conclusion that while they are both great, great players, we cannot come to a conslusion as to who is better.
     
  9. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Typical Torres finish.

    A Cl and Euro medal for his worst season ever.

    Xavi man of the match.

    Who will be player of the tournament? Probably Xavi now.
     
  10. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    They are getting fitter and better physically but also a lot more institutionalized.

    Actually all things considered, this is a weaker era compared to the late 90s.
     
  11. Playboy Red Devil

    May 3, 2010
    West Hollywood
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Buffon had a touch on it.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Why would overall player quality be down?

    That would violate the laws of supply and demand.
     
  13. Bronaldo

    Bronaldo Red Card

    Apr 8, 2007
    Canada
    I think I've won fantasy. Unless you had Xavi as your captain.
     
  14. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Disagree.

    Its just that individualism is now less important.
     
  15. Karloski

    Karloski Member+

    Oct 26, 2006
    England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Will this be the only 5 mins of the tournament for Mata?
     
  16. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nope. You won. I bottled the last game. Lack of wild card killed me.
     
  17. JamesA

    JamesA Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    Victoria
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Why so?
     
  18. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Golden boot now swings to Torres.
     
  19. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    It is about the tail of the distribution. More players does not imply higher quality/fatter tail.

    The more talented young players are institutionalized, the more unlikely it is that they will develop into an outlier.
     
  20. Malcolm91

    Malcolm91 Member

    May 29, 2007
    Brasilia
    One thing about players is that they are becoming less flexible and more tied down to specific systems.

    Much like the scientific argument of fields becoming much more specific and the possibility of the renaissance man reappearing being nill.

    It all comes down to whether you prefer a person who knows alot about one thing over a person who knows less about more things.
     
  21. Playboy Red Devil

    May 3, 2010
    West Hollywood
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Torres to Mata. Espania are just too good.
     
  22. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Historia.

    I am happy.
     
  23. SirManchester

    SirManchester Member+

    Apr 14, 2004
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    John Terry to lift Spanish trophy.
     
    LA. MAN UNITED repped this.
  24. jpick

    jpick Member

    Jul 5, 2006
    jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Credit to Spain. Italy tried their best and had a great tournament just Spain is too hard to handle. Just so many good players, arguably 5 of the most technical midfielders in the world, all in one midfield...just too good. Still proud of the azzurri, though.
     
  25. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Platini gave Balotelli one dirty look. No words of encouragement there either.
     

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