Road to 2014 Begins: 23 for Orlando

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by LiverAndPineapple, Apr 5, 2012.

  1. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With the BS much maligned Williams hurt who will his detractors pick to replace him as Donovan's backup at AMR and in fact start v Scotland if LD is not available if LA does not release him?
     
  3. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    I'm surprised I disagree with YA's analysis here.

    1. Based on all his previous callup patterns and all the talk about target forwards, I'll be shocked if Klinsmann calls up only Altidore with the out of position Dempsey as the other option.

    2. Similar to my comments on Beckerman earlier in this thread, I'll also be shocked if Klinsmann drops Shea.
     
  4. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ---------Altidore
    Shea-----Dempsey----Chandler
    ----------6---------8
    Johnson----CB---CB------Cherundolo


    or

    ---------Altidore
    Donovan-----Dempsey----Chandler
    ----------6---------8
    Johnson----CB---CB------Cherundolo


    I like Williams, but not as a wide midfielder.
     
  5. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    I think we really need one more center forward, which means one fewer holding midfielder. The most expendable in my eyes in Beckerman, and I'm not sure that Klinsi will agree or disagree. (It's my theory that Klinsi liked Beckerman as a "prototype" to build his team organization around, not for his total quality, and that Bradley fulfilled that role successfully against Italy while exhibiting higher quality.)

    And there hasn't been a time quite like the present to let Shea concentrate on club football and promote other options, most notably a winger/forward who has been playing lights-out in Mexico except for a little muscle pull that should be healed in a month. Particularly since we're getting Donovan back (finally!), and Shea was likely only called into Italy because we were short a winger. Also, Beasley is in form, and we've got two real, competitive WCQs on the schedule.
     
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chandler can move up to RW. (Dolo RB, Lichaj at LB)

    Fabian Johnson can also play on the right or the left (both in the back and in the midfield) and in central midfield as well. Johnson is the USMNT Swiss Army Knife - he can do anything.
     
  7. Namdynamo

    Namdynamo Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
    Lichaj can also move to LB and Johnson can then move to LM or RM.
     
  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Johnson is the only player that gives us a legitimate left footed threat from the left back position. Both Lichaj and Chandler are playing that position with a hand (or foot as it were) tied behind their back.
     
  9. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Johnson is okay with his left foot. He's probably better than Lichaj and Chandlr with his left foot.

    But Fabian Johnson is right footed
     
  10. Susaeta

    Susaeta BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 3, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would like see Altidore, Dempsey, Donovan, Chandler, and Johnson all on the field at the same time. I would be ecstatic to see Corona out there, too, but think that may be a stretch.

    I think the US - under Klinsmann - has always lacked the attacking numbers to really push the issue. Regardless of how those players line up, there are attacking options all over the field in that team.
     
  11. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wrote it before but somehow didn't get posted. Johnson is significantly better than the other two with his left foot, in my viewings. He's a bit like Philip Lahm, whereas to me Chandler looks really out of place and Lichaj slightly less so.
     
  12. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chandler's left is weak. Needs to play on the right side.
     
  13. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Totally.

    If we could finally get all five of these guys on the field together, we might well be able to play about a full level higher than we have the past couple of years (except that we'd still not be quite up to par at CB) and really get after a whole lot of teams.

    So I'd say from here on out, Klinsi's issue is two-fold; how to get that group arranged optimally, and what to do for plan B or C. Because obviously it's never safe to rely on 5 specific guys being healthy and fit at the same time.
     
  14. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    I think we'd be pretty dangerous playing Bob Ball with

    ------------------Demps--------Jozy
    -----Dono------------------------------Chandler
    -----------------Mikey---------?
    Johnson--------------------------------Cherundolo
    --------------------CB--------CB
     
  15. NatsTeamFan

    NatsTeamFan Member

    May 9, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    I really don't understand wanting to play Chandler at right mid. He's simply not that great of a midfielder. He's sooooo much better if he can come from the back on an overlapping run and buy himself more time to pick someone out with a cross. Johnson should be a midfielder, and I truly hope that Klinnsman see's that. His football intelligence is really impressive, he see's the entirety of the field, and he can pick anybody out with pin point accuracy. I mean Lichaj is starting in the premier league as a left back, I don't think we're giving up too much.
     
  16. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I feel the same way, if i was Klinnsman this would be my best line up.

    -----------Altidore----------
    F.Johnson--CD------Dono
    ----Kljestan/Jft---Bradley---
    Lichaj--Ream--CB---Dolo/Chandler
    -------Howard--------

    Pretty strong team imo.
     
  17. rossk

    rossk Member

    May 19, 2002
    richmond va
    But then you would have to sit Cherundolo. If its Lichaj or Cherundolo sitting, that's a no brainier.
     
  18. USAMEX10

    USAMEX10 Member+

    Sep 24, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I'd rather start Cherundolo.
     
  19. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Berks

    Berks Member+

    Dec 22, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please jesus. We might actually have an attack that doesn't equal just a moment of Clint Dempsey brilliance.
     
  21. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    So I'm Brazil's CF and I look right down the middle of the field and I see

    ---------------Dempsey---
    ---------------Torres------
    ---------------Ream----------
    --------------Howard------
    ------------g-o-l-!!!!!------
     
  23. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I honestly don't get the point of this post at all. Am I dense?
    What does Brazil have to do with anything here first of all...
    Is Dempsey scoring on Brazil or letting them score for some reason? Same question for Howard... Is he supposedly not good enough to play against Brazil?
     
  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Some interesting questions I'll be curious to see answered:

    Klinsmann was high on Torres at the beginning of the tenure. Is Torres now healthy and back in form still a starter?

    Is Beasley back in?

    With Lichaj now available is Johnson more valuable in midfield or still at left back?

    2 or 3 center forwards?
     
  25. forza inter

    forza inter Member

    Apr 2, 2004
    Middletown, ct
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    gtfo
     

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