HELP HELP Which colleges try to play a passing Barcelona style game? My kid is on a top 20 U17 nationally ranked team. They knock it around at easily in the back but when it gets to midfield they have very little success at this ,they get frustrated and play the long ball or direct soccer. It is ugly American soccer. Yet they win many, many more games than they lose. I've seen 10 years of classic and watched 4 years worth of college cups and the vast majority of clubs play this freaking style!! Big, physical, fast players with descent skills and adequate brains are favored over smaller, slightly slower players with much better skills and brains. We are sick of this style, Can anybody suggest colleges that play a more European style of play? HELP US FIND THE BEAUTIFUL GAME IN COLLEGE!!!!!!!!!
Very true. My advice would be to find videos of the schools you are looking at and decide based on your own viewing.
Barcelona is a once in a lifetime team. Last time I checked messi, Iniesta, David Villa, et al didn't play in the MLS, college or any other team. Everyone wants to be Barcelona just as every girl wants to be a supermodel. You good to play the hand you are dealt. Your son is not messi, Iniesta, etc.
But they didn't fall out of the sky, either. As you probably know, Barcelona's player development grew out of a concerted effort to follow in the footsteps of Ajax. I see it as a proven model for success.
Probably the ones that can pronounce it as Bar-THE-Lona. Ummm...how about the University of Madrid, or better still, the Fighting Iberians of Valencia State University?
Ajax athleticism with Spanish flare ? Pretty good formula. Not happening in AYSO/Club/Academy/College/MLS in this decade. Starter of the the thread suggested playing like Barcelona by picking smaller, SLOWER players? For all of Messi's magic, his pace with the ball is what makes everything work. Players have to back off of him because he can run by them, if then pressure he combines around. Great skill but RIDICULOUS pace!!! Same can be said for Cristiano - RIDICULOUS athlete!!! Some Barcelona players may be small but nothing slow or nonathletic about them.
thanks for advice. Yet, There must be D1-2-3 schools that try to knock the ball around like Italy.......(Think USA at Genoa match) American youth teams have many large fast choppy dudes with adequate skills that almost without exception kill attempts to play the beautiful game. American's tone is dominated by this choppiness. You can not knock the ball around like Italy with this American... But I think you can with a squad of highly skilled yet slower smaller Americans. I think there are enough of these slower/smarter/skilled players available for a fine coach to build a successful program. Any schools like this ? I heard Nazareth Colege in NY might be one
This - watch schools and find one you like. Or dislike the least. Or, better yet, have your kid look at schools and find one he likes. At the end of the day, he's the one who will be playing, and there's a whole lot more to college soccer than the style of play. His opinion on the matter is far more important than yours here, because at the end of the day, it's his life.
As mentioned, ridiculous athleticism. https://twitter.com/#!/Carles5puyol/media/slideshow?url=http://yfrog.com/oblc7lkj
Crazy idea, but stick with me here: Have your kid think about what he may want to major in. Then have him think about what size school he would like to go to. Then have him think about how far away from home and what area he would like to go to school in. Once that is narrowed down then start thinking about soccer.
College soccer, I agree with your emphasis on ridiculous athleticism..... which of course combined with outstanding soccer acumen. But that combination in a youth player is very very rare. Coaches 'error' on the side of the athleticly advantaged. The bad part is their soccer acumen is is not as well developed. I'm just saying, I think a team of smart soccer players can compete with the athletic types. If not they definitely will play a sweeter game. and Gaucho thanks for your straight talk advice.. .not to worry..my kid lives his own life and 1950 SATs ..it's just a pain finding a college with good soccer... .it almost not worth playing in college hell it's not worth playing youth ball......better to go to europe in a 5 or 6th divisionr league if you want good football
Apologies for the knuckleheads, Pulaski. Start your search with Akron. Caleb Porter is the coach, was recently appointed the U23 Nat's coach as well. He's doing some fairly remarkable things at Akron (including taking them to the national title two years ago). Pretty consistent top 10-12 team nationally now, and depending on his recruiting class, often top 5. His work with the u23s has been just as good, in a much shorter period of time. The u23s played excellent pressing, attacking soccer against Mexico's u23s recently and made them look very ordinary. I haven't been this excited about a US men's team in a long time. Night and day from the style of the full Nat's. There are a couple other teams that play almost as well, and plenty that play decently and make beat Akron on an off day, but there's a reason Porter was given the U23 job. People in the know are convinced he is future full Nat's coach. I have no dog in this fight (I only have daughters) but I know exactly what you're talking about as far as style/substance. Caleb's teams have it in spades. Good luck. DM me if you want a link to a great blog site that can help you find the kind of soccer you're looking for. I'll take one point from one of the other comments above: I know exactly where you're coming from, but make sure this is important to your son to seek this out. If so, go for it.
Check out Messiah in PA. Excellent school and very good soccer program. However, they look for a certain kind of player - spirtually speaking. Great crowds and play the game the way you are looking for.
My kids very good but not "Akron" good. Seen them a few times. I like to think there a many slightly slower/smaller but smarter players coming of age that can play a more european game if they were given the chance... If this is a real trend it should help our domestic game American soccer coach: 'Give me the fast, large player and I;ll teach him enough soccer to win.' Looking for D1-2-3 outside the top 30 who favors a more thoughtful game Nazereth, Messiah, Zidane U......any more? I'm going ask experienced coaches this same stuff.. Mike Sorbercheck your email
Wouldn't this be just as knucklehead as you are are advocating looking at colleges solely based on the style of play of the soccer team?
You do realize that the "beautiful" game is not necessarily the Barcelona style. Your son is around my age and I am also doing the process of finding a college, but you need to be active and go to the colleges. Going to camps + playing well + communicating with coach = ??? Find a college your son likes then do some research to see if they have soccer. If you want to admit it or not the chance for any of us at this age to go pro and make a living is low. Don’t be miserable for 4 years because of some ridiculous desire that is nearly impossible to achieve.
Sublimepass..... Kids' looking at colleges for bio-engineering program first and then soccer. It would be nice if he can find a school with a soccer team that played the composed sublime pass more often than once a half. my opinion is: US youth soccer at the National and regional league levels is ugly ugly due to highly skilled slightly slower kids being neglected in favor of the athletic speciman who can run and harass like the devil on both sides of the ball but can not play or see the game at a more at the sublime level. I think a college coach can recruit these smaller/slower/smarter players and make a nice program.
Interesting that this hasn't been mentioned until now. Have you followed the other steps I discussed? Looking at the list of schools with a bio-engineering major he is going to have very few options of very high level college ball, so he needs to follow those steps. Or give up on college and go play 5th or 6th division in Europe, like you said.
If you really think your son didn't make regional pool (or any team for that matter) due to a lack of "speed" or "athleticism" you are kidding yourself. I know for a fact that the south-east is not like this and when we play other teams this is not true. If you are not fast then your other skills must overcome it. As Arsene said “To be good you must be good in everything and fantastic at something”. I am far from fast and yet have no issue of which you speak of. If you can run as fast in the 89th minute as you can in the 10th speed should not be an issue… But just to prevent me from being an ass look into Georgia Southern, Bradley University, and BSU. All three attempt to play “beautifully” as you say.
BUsa '94 Thanks for advice and 'beautiful' college clubs.... As to my 'sour grape ' bias'.. I have few but I think I'm realistic about my kid's abilities. BTW, I've seen Concord Fire Elite (Georgia), it is no different. All I'm saying is: For victories we favor the athletic player and discard the skilled player. Which is good for single clubs but not the game. This promotes a simple, direct, soccer all the way to our national teams. All it takes ONE poor touch or blind eye! I think our beautiful game dies with these discarded gems . If you do not sow in the spring, you will not reap in the autumn. The beat goes on.............. la-de-da-de-di...... .List of 'beautiful' college clubs.... Nazereth, Messiah, Zidane U, Georgia Southern, Bradley University, and BSU