USSF Development Academy In-Depth

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by TimB4Last, Mar 29, 2008.

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  1. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
  2. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    Thanks to you and others for some positive comments. I guess I'm one of the culprits of negative tone so I'll try to do better.
     
  3. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    I agree. But if your senior national team coach plays a different system I'm less concerned. Also all one has to do is look at Mourinho to realize a rigid 4-3-3 system is a relic of the past, not something to build for the future.
     
  4. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    Do they only play one forward? The kids numbers are fantastic.
     
  5. Toddsoccerdad

    Toddsoccerdad Member

    Oct 19, 2011
    SLC
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Truthfully i follow the u-16s closer because my son Lucas is on that team but i have seen the 18s play three times and in both teams cases playing time is very much highly coveted by some very good players. I can tell you that each team has about 16 very good players and the coaches decide each week who will start based on how they perform in practice. in fact at the u-16 level the leading scorer on the team left for what seemed to be playing time reasons. I guess at the end of the day what is most important is developement. Their intra squad scrimmages are very intense.
     
  6. izha

    izha Member

    May 24, 2002
    Yes, you are wrong (what's probably a good news for you). Mexican salaries are much higher. Russia, Ukraine, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Championship, BL2 much higher. Even Scandinavian countries are higher.
     
  7. Toddsoccerdad

    Toddsoccerdad Member

    Oct 19, 2011
    SLC
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wow Thanks for the info. I guess MLS has a ways to go Salary wise.
     
  8. Toddsoccerdad

    Toddsoccerdad Member

    Oct 19, 2011
    SLC
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On a side note is it bad that I enjoyed seeing Mexico get humbled both Senior and u-23 teams? Hey maybe they are not way better than us :)
     
  9. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Without specifics the gaps are guesswork. I would love to know what truly are the differences. I can't see Finland and Norway having any significantly more salary wise, but would love to see it in a link. The whole average vs mean, vs exchange rate, vs how many weeks is per week make it alittle more difficult to nail down.
     
  10. arsenalfc08

    arsenalfc08 Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    I believe Etchu Tabe was making about 40K in Finland that included an apartment and free meals at the club restaurant. It seems most teams in Europe will provide an apartment for a player or some type of housing allowance/assistance. IMO having an apartment paid for or at least assistance in paying the rent is a big help especially for the players on a lower salary.
     
  11. the Next Level

    Mar 18, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Also, in most countries in Europe the player does not pay tax on his quoted wages. So what you hear is what he actually gets.
     
  12. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
  13. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    think about this: u talking about tabe making $40k and that is comparable to MLS. what ur forgetting is that the quality is not the same so it's apples to oranges. Stuart Holden was making $40 k in mls when he was on MNT roster. he is a way bigger prospect than Tabe. how is George John an allstar back with skills for the top league still making 40k. Just ridiculous!
    I know the Brazilian league pays much better than MLS for a fact.
     
  14. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    dont get too carried away with u23 victory bc that is not Mexico top team. However, u play the game and we were favorites to win and we accomplished that playing good futbol. Now got to take this and run like hell. this klinsmann era is shaping up
    nicely
     
  15. BigKeeper

    BigKeeper Member

    Mar 1, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe the calender date is only a portion of the problem. Taking the law of averages, yes, the kids born in the earlier half of the year who hit puberty at the average age of 11-12 for boys will, on average, be maturing earlier than those who hit puberty at the average age of 11-12 on the back end of the year. You still have the other, I'm guessing, approx. 25% who hit puberty early 9-10 and the other, again guessing, approx 25% who hit it later 13-15 years old, where the calender birthday effect wont matter.

    Agreed, although I have not yet seen an example of a turn in this direction. I have not yet seen, spoken to, worked with, a coach who seems to understand or even care to understand this issue, especially at some of the most revered clubs in my area, MLS included. I do, however, understand why they are not informed of this because it is likely only a factor for players who hit puberty after 12 years old which is probably less than 50% of kids. In their eyes, they have enough early maturing talent to choose from to be a top youth program. As long as you are a top youth program, your money stream will continue but as far as this country being a top Soccer nation or being able to field top domestic professional talent, we are likely missing a possible high percentage of potential future athletes.

    I agree with all of what you say and it seems you have an understanding of this topic.
    To add, the puberty process takes 5-6 years to finish. When its done, an athlete can work with his full potential to develop his optimum athleticism. An early puberty boy who finished the process at 15-16 years old, indicated often by facial and body hair, by 18 y/o, has had 2 years towards optimizing his God given potential. A boy who hit puberty at 13-14, at 18 years old, is still about a year away from getting to begin working with his full God given potential to optimize.
    Being good at youth sports is very, very different than being good at adult and especially, professional sports.
     
  16. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Because both John and Holden turned down multiple contract offers so they could bolt to Europe when their contracts expired.
     
  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yup.............FCD offered George John a lucrative contract to stay last year. He turned it down to go on a European adventure (which hasn't quite happened yet for him). He was on a contract given to a low first round pick.

    OK.............now back to the development academy.

    Some interesting results from the U18 division yesterday

    Vancouver Whitecaps FC U-17/18 3:0 San Jose Earthquakes U-17/18
    Real Salt Lake AZ U-17/18 5:0 Crossfire Premier U-17/18
    Chivas USA U-17/18 3:2 Arsenal FC U-17/18
    Crew Soccer Academy U-17/18 5:0 Andromeda FC U-17/18

    A player named Aaron Brody scored a hat-trick for RSL in that 5-0 game. He's a 95. God I'm old.....................
     
  18. uscan18

    uscan18 Member

    Aug 11, 2010
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Aaron is an exceptional young talent at RSL U-16.
    RSL U-18s completed their 3rd consecutive 5-0 match. The ball control/possesion this team is capable of when executing their system is really something to watch.
     
  19. uscan18

    uscan18 Member

    Aug 11, 2010
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    To be clear, Aaron Brody scored his hat trick with the U-16's in their victory, not sure of the final score in that match, 4 or 5 to zero I believe.
     
  20. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
  22. truthandlife

    truthandlife Member

    Jul 28, 2003
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    USSF U16 surprising result today:

    Texans SC 2 - Dallas Texans 0

    Dallas Texans were undefeated before this game
     
  23. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    the ole cliche "that's why they play the game"
     
  24. bajansoccer

    bajansoccer Member

    Aug 28, 2011
    remember this post about orellana: he is going to shine at Olympics and will be offered overseas contract. then when he is about to sign, RSL is going to get off their ass and try to sign him and unfortunately he is going to take the deal. he is a tremendous talent and should have been signed a year ago. he is wasting valuable time in u18's DA.
     
  25. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you're predicting that US or Mexico won't qualify and El Salvador will?

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