News: Mid-East Events watch

nimaa · Feb 14, 2012

yasik19 said: ↑

Yes, it's fairly common to carry a grenade in Thailand. It is also very common to throw a grenade in self defense when one is cornered. Very unfortunate he missed and dropped it in his pants.
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OH MY GOOOOOOD
lmao so every drug trafficker, gang member and criminal around the planet is a 'terrorist'??? The ********ing guy is probably a drug smuggler, a criminal of some sort.

I guess if I get into a fight with someone and knock the other guy out, BBC will do a report on me calling me a trrorist b/c I'm Iranian!!! This is getting crazy!

nimaa · Feb 14, 2012

yasik19 said: ↑

Well, if that's the case, then the last 2 pages of this thread were pretty stupid.
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The entire Western World turns into a brain dead collective the minute Iran is mentioned. Some ********ing criminal does something, nobody bothers to check his story and immidietly shouts 'terrorism.'

what's worse is the response from Israel. Pretty messed up how the Israeli govt is acting so amateurish on this issue. It's scary to think that Israel has nukes in its position.

valanjak · Feb 15, 2012

Given that just yesterday Israeli interests were attacked in India & Georgia & that this attack was close to the Israeli embassy and the bombers used similar tactics its highly likely this was a planned attack in response to the {Isnip} killing of innocent Iranian scientists and not a coincidence by some Iranian drug cartels . When was the last time a Iranian drug cartel pulled off this type of operation? NEVER . What’s sad is that these thugs can’t even do a terrorist operation successfully and do a half ass job and we have some Iranian members who are constantly talking about how powerful Iran can be in these types of attacks in the ME if Israel attacks Iran but as demonstrated in these 3 attempts Iran can’t even do a good job at something it use to be good at which was terrorist operations but the Israelis seem to have it right when attacking Iranian scientists.

Saudi64 · Feb 15, 2012

Mani said: ↑

Once again, the Bahrain protestors are UNARMED civilians, the Syrian one are ARMED militias. Are you really that blind, not to see the major difference here? But you are right that the two conflicts are not equal , the oppression is actually more sever in Bahrain, as the battlefield is uneven. The Bahrain youth would probably trade their stones and fists, for the automatic rifles and kalashnikovs that the Syrian opposition is using in a heart beat, even if it meant that they would now be at the receiving end of artillery fire too.

So stop being an apologist and a hypocrite, No matter how you spin it it still smells like manure.
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Most of the personal videos ive seen from Syria are all unarmed citizens being beaten, shot, tortured, bombed the hell out with artillery etc. Do u have any videos of armed rebels or any source?

odessit19 · Feb 15, 2012

valanjak said: ↑

Given that just yesterday Israeli interests were attacked in India & Georgia & that this attack was close to the Israeli embassy and the bombers used similar tactics its highly likely this was a planned attack in response to the Zionists killing of innocent Iranian scientists and not a coincidence by some Iranian drug cartels . When was the last time a Iranian drug cartel pulled off this type of operation? NEVER . What’s sad is that these thugs can’t even do a terrorist operation successfully and do a half ass job and we have some Iranian members who are constantly talking about how powerful Iran can be in these types of attacks in the ME if Israel attacks Iran but as demonstrated in these 3 attempts Iran can’t even do a good job at something it use to be good at which was terrorist operations but the Israelis seem to have it right when attacking Iranian scientists.
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nimaa said: ↑

The entire Western World turns into a brain dead collective the minute Iran is mentioned. Some ********ing criminal does something, nobody bothers to check his story and immidietly shouts 'terrorism.'

what's worse is the response from Israel. Pretty messed up how the Israeli govt is acting so amateurish on this issue. It's scary to think that Israel has nukes in its position.
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So, is it A or B?

Mani · Feb 15, 2012

Saudi64 said: ↑

Most of the personal videos ive seen from Syria are all unarmed citizens being beaten, shot, tortured, bombed the hell out with artillery etc. Do u have any videos of armed rebels or any source?
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You're kidding, right?

Does the name "Syrian Free Army" ring a bell for you?

They even have armored vehicles!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZG1lYwqeHk"]This is how we roll: Syria rebels show off APC - YouTube[/ame]

They're armed to teeth!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdlR-0ki22c"]Raw Video: Syrian Free Army in Firefight - YouTube[/ame]

And they hang those who support the Assad regime, in the middle of the street, in broad daylight!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNTz2D9zuHw"]Terrorists Hang Civilian for Supporting Assad in Presence of Children - YouTube[/ame]

Mani · Feb 15, 2012

Now you guys show me a video of protestors in Bahrain having automatic rifles, and armored vehicles, or handcuffing people and hanging them from the post, and then we can talk about "equal conflicts".

As I said before, the severity of the oppression in Bahrain is even more extreme than Syria, as the protestors in Bahrain are not armed.

valanjak · Feb 15, 2012

Mani said: ↑

You're kidding, right?

Does the name "Syrian Free Army" ring a bell for you?

They even have armored vehicles!
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The Western media is portraying these terrorist Wahhabis as some sort of Democracy rebels fighting the crusaders . But the truth is they are bunch of Wahhabi terrorists who will make Syria a Islamic state like Saudi Arabia. Assad has brought years of stability in his country and he is secular. The unrest in Syria is a battle of secularism against Wahhabi Islam and the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran is supporting secular Assad just shows the regime in Iran is un-Islamic

Iranianfootie · Feb 15, 2012

nimaa said: ↑

what's the story with this Thailand bombing shit?
I've only had enough time to read the initial BBC article about it this morning and look at random headlines on google. CNN {is} screaming terror but the picture that I got from BBC's unclear report was that the "Iranian" guy was leaving the scene of a crime and when he was cornered he reacted. He also wanted to get into a taxi and when the guy didn't let him in he attacked the driver.

Now can somebody tell me how the ******** this is related to terrorism? There must be something I'm missing! Do we even know if he's actually a muslim!?
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It was Mirzapour. A forward was attacking and he panicked.

Mani · Feb 15, 2012

Syria's Christians stand by Assad

In Christian homes around the country the prevailing sentiment is one of relief rather than delight -- they link the survival of the Assad regime to their own.

"Thank god for Russia. Without Russia we are doomed," said a Christian woman from Damascus recently.

As a fellow minority, Christians have long supported the Alawite regime in order to ensure protection and rights for themselves. The Alawite are a Shiite sect of Islam.

"Look what has happened in Iraq and now in Egypt," said the woman. "Assad in power means that won't happen here."

Thousands of Christians are tied up in the regime's security apparatus and are employed in high-ranking government and military positions. Aware that some day the masses might rise up against the regime, Syria's previous president, Hafez al-Assad, sought to consolidate power among the minorities, people he knew would unite when tested.

Furthermore, ties between Syria's Christians and Alawites are not restricted to the spheres of politics and security.

Both Alawites and Christians drink alcohol, regularly together. Alawites are seen by some Christians as being less Islamic in that many do not fast during the holy month of Ramadan. Many young Alawites frequent nightclubs and few wear the Islamic headscarf.

"The problems in Syria are nearly over," said another Christian woman, a school teacher, brushing off the latest violence. Her comments on Saturday were a repeat of what she told a correspondent for GlobalPost last August.

In the town of Qatana, 22 miles west of Damascus, the capital, a small Christian community is supportive of the army's current operation to surround the town. On Sunday, residents were not allowed to leave or enter the town following months of intermittent anti-regime protests there.

"They [the army] will keep us safe from the gangs and the extremists. We need them here," said one resident reached by phone.
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The manager of a boutique hotel in the Christian quarter of Damascus' historic Old City blames international television networks for the "crisis," and not the regime's violent crackdown.

"Al Jazeera is causing all this trouble in Syria. They are telling lies. Look around you -- there are no problems here," she said.

Others believe Qatar and Saudi Arabia are working to take control of Syria and are being pushed by the United States and Israel.
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Timon19 · Feb 15, 2012

valanjak said: ↑

The Western media is portraying these terrorist Wahhabis as some sort of Democracy rebels fighting the crusaders . But the truth is they are bunch of Wahhabi terrorists who will make Syria a Islamic state like Saudi Arabia. Assad has brought years of stability in his country and he is secular. The unrest in Syria is a battle of secularism against Wahhabi Islam and the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran is supporting secular Assad just shows the regime in Iran is un-Islamic
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Holy ********. I think I just saw someone stand up for a butcher using the "stability vs. fanaticism" argument. I hope it was a dream.

ceezmad · Feb 15, 2012

Timon19 said: ↑

Holy ********. I think I just saw someone stand up for a butcher using the "stability vs. fanaticism" argument. I hope it was a dream.
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Well we have been doing the same for decades.

Even if the Persian nut jobs are right, a secular dictator is still a dictator, just because I may agree with his politics/ideology, it does not mean I should support a dictator.

If he gets overthrown and replaced with a Saudi Arabia type of government oh well, at least the bad guys would be crazy religious nut jobs and not an educated secular mass murderer. IMO.

Timon19 · Feb 15, 2012

ceezmad said: ↑

Well we have been doing the same for decades.

Even if the Persian nut jobs are right, a secular dictator is still a dictator, just because I may agree with his politics/ideology, it does not mean I should support a dictator.

If he gets overthrown and replaced with a Saudi Arabia type of government oh well, at least the bad guys would be crazy religious nut jobs and not an educated secular mass murderer. IMO.
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All I know is that self-determination, whichever way it goes, should be preferable to autocracy. At least with a population that has tasted liberty, no matter how briefly, they at least know it can be reached again.

Txtriathlete · Feb 15, 2012

Timon19 said: ↑

All I know is that self-determination, whichever way it goes, should be preferable to autocracy. At least with a population that has tasted liberty, no matter how briefly, they at least know it can be reached again.
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With the superpower's blessings of course.

Timon19 · Feb 15, 2012

Txtriathlete said: ↑

With the superpower's blessings of course.
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I don't care who blesses it. In a lot of ways, I would prefer that any superpower (that would be us at the moment and for the near future) be constantly poked in the eye with people freeing themselves ON THEIR OWN TERMS in spite of the superpower's wishes until they ********ing stop acting like assholes.

Mr. Conspiracy · Feb 15, 2012

Mani said: ↑

Once again, the Bahrain protestors are UNARMED civilians, the Syrian one are ARMED militias. Are you really that blind, not to see the major difference here? But you are right that the two conflicts are not equal , the oppression is actually more sever in Bahrain, as the battlefield is uneven. The Bahrain youth would probably trade their stones and fists, for the automatic rifles and kalashnikovs that the Syrian opposition is using in a heart beat, even if it meant that they would now be at the receiving end of artillery fire too.

So stop being an apologist and a hypocrite, No matter how you spin it it still smells like manure.
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Cmon Mani quit being so disingenious. Look, I am not arguing with you that what is going on and has happened in Bahrain is wrong and will continue to be wrong. We are in agreement there. But you can't possibly compare the situation there with the one in syria. Even being callous and looking at just the numbers you can clearly see a huge difference in the level of violence committed by each of the oppresive Govt. involved. Also to say that the syrians are all armed militas is a gross exaggeration of the truth. Yes there is a syrian free army, and look what it is composed of, defecting Syrian troops who couldn't abide by the slaughter any longer. And you can't tell me that the shelling in Homs is targeting armed militas. They are intentionally attacking everyone in the city.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wor...wants-election-as-homs-shrouded-in-smoke.html

REPORTING FROM BEIRUT -- Syrian President Bashar Assad declared Wednesday that his violence-torn nation will vote on a new draft constitution later this month, but a thick plume of black smoke over the embattled city of Homs highlighted anew the conflict pummeling the country.
The government and the opposition exchanged blame for an attack on a fuel pipeline that caused a massive column of smoke to rise early Wednesday from the city that has become a worldwide symbol of Syria's escalating conflict. The pall of billowy black smoke lingered for hours above Homs, even as gunfire and shelling was reported in some districts.
Assad set Feb. 26 as the date for a nationwide referendum on the draft constitution, state media reported. With turmoil enveloping much of the nation, however, it was unclear how the Syrian government could organize a credible national referendum in 11 days. Fighting has been reported across Syria, and authorities acknowledge having lost control of some territory to armed rebels. Most experts see little prospect for a cease-fire.
The new draft constitution is the centerpiece of what the president calls his reform agenda. With Syria on the verge of civil war, Assad has asserted that he is seeking to put the nation on the course to a more representative government after more 40 years of his family's rule.
Opposition groups demanding Assad's ouster scoff at the proposed constitution and other "reforms" as desperate diversionary moves meant to prolong the life of an autocratic regime. Opponents view the steps as dilatory tactics designed to appease Syria's dwindling list of foreign allies, notably Russia, which has pressured Assad to implement democratic reforms.
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To address these rumors that SA is behind this revolt, I have yet to see a single shred of credible evidence to support such baseless accusations. Hell one would expect assad to have put confessions of such people up on national TV if this were the actual case.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/14/world/meast/syria-paid-killer/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

CNN is not disclosing Arwa Damon's exact location in Syria because of concerns for her safety.
Inside Syria (CNN) -- Sa'er is a self-described assassin for the Syrian government.
He says he has fired on unarmed protesters, killed as many as 70 people and once slit a man's throat.
It was kill or be killed, he says; Sa'er says he was simply carrying out orders.
He says he worked at an Interior Ministry prison, and "we would go out with the officers from the prisons. ... They gave us guns with scopes and you see the body as if you're looking at yourself in the mirror."

Sa'er tells Mounir about a time two police officers captured a man. A major put a gun to Sa'er's head and ordered him to kill the prisoner, he says.
"He said, 'I am going to count to 10.' He cocked the gun, fired into the air and put it to my head again. I slaughtered him," Sa'er says.
The government turned him and others like him into monsters who would have killed their own fathers, he claims. They were promised wealth and told they were helping to fight terrorists, he says.
For close to a year, the Syrian government has sustained a brutal crackdown on protesters seeking to oust President Bashar al-Assad. The government claims its security forces are battling terrorists.
The United Nations estimates that at least 5,400 people have been killed, while an opposition group says more than 7,000 people have died.
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You can clearly see mani that there are more people killed in syria then have been killed and arrested in Bahrain.

Mr. Conspiracy · Feb 15, 2012

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/14/abrams-turning-point-in-bahrain/?hpt=wo_r1

Bahrain’s internal situation is unquestionably complicated by the presence of larger and more powerful neighbors such as Iran and Saudi Arabia. While the Bahrain International Commission of Inquiry (BICI) found no direct Iranian intervention, Iran’s broadcasting certainly tries to exacerbate tensions and its history and practice of using terrorism and intervening in the affairs of neighbors (such as Afghanistan and Iraq) gives Sunni Bahrainis nightmares. Some Bahrainis fear that if Iran loses its Syrian ally with the coming downfall of the Assad clique, the ayatollahs may seek increased power in Bahrain—or at least increased turmoil there.Meanwhile, those Bahraini officials, including in the royal family, favoring reform and compromise have faced great Saudi pressure against change—and things did not get easier when Prince Nayef became Crown Prince. For the Saudis, what we in the West might call compromise would be anathema: moving some political power away from a royal family toward elected officials, which is bad enough, and allowing for greater Shia influence in a country bordering on the Saudis’ Eastern Province with its millions of Shia. Compared to the influence of Iran and Saudi Arabia in Bahrain, the calls from the United States and United Kingdom for sensible accommodations have had little impact.Is it too late? Part of the tragedy has been that moderates among the Sunnis and Shia have too often been marginalized. There is plenty of blame to be shared, from the refusal of some Shia groups including the largest, al-Wefaq, to take up last year the Crown Prince’s offer of a serious dialogue, to the resort to force on the part of the security forces under the day-to-day command of the Prime Minister (an opponent of reform—and not coincidentally of strong moves to eliminate corruption). At the top the King has taken some strong and admirable moves, such as appointing the BICI and accepting its recommendations, but has failed to assert himself against the prime minister—his uncle—and bring an end to misuse of force.
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Mr. Conspiracy · Feb 15, 2012

teammellieIRANfan said: ↑

And where is exactly the damming evidence or proof that Iran was behind these attacks?
As far as I know, India has not produced any evidence but merely hinting at Iran considering the circumstances and political situation. For now its nothing more than suspicion. But that is not the same as proof, no one has been captured.

So how is the evidence more clear in this case where no one was captured relative to last year when the Iranian intelligence and police captured the perpetrator who confessed. Maybe the confession was forced, its impossible for a layman like me to say.
My main point is that I dont see how the Israelis have been more successful or "far better" in covering up the deeds, in comparison to Iran.
If you ask me, I think it was the work of Iran. I think its high probability. Just like I think its a high probability that the assassinations of Iranian scientists was done by Mossad.

Has it been proven that the incident in Thailand is connected to the event in India? Dont think it has.
To sum up: All we have, at the present moment, is allegations.
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You can read the earlier article I posted where it stated that the man was iranian. But as always with time more information comes forward.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/15/world/asia/thailand-blasts-iranians/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Israel and Iran traded accusations Wednesday over a string of bombings in other countries, with Israel pointing fingers at Tehran and the Iranian regime calling such claims a "prelude" to an Israeli attack.

The fight came as Thai authorities charged two Iranians in connection with a string of blasts in Bangkok, and a Thai official drew a tentative link to attacks this week aimed at Israeli officials in India. The materials used in the explosive devices were similar, the official said.
Malaysian police also arrested a man in connection with the bombings in Thailand, authorities said.

The first bomb Tuesday went off in a rental house in Bangkok believed to be leased to foreigners, according to Thai authorities. After the blast, two of the men left the scene while a third detonated two more bombs -- one, when a taxi driver refused to give him a ride, and another when he tried to throw a bomb at police officers as they closed in on him.
The last bomb exploded near the man, blowing off one of his legs, authorities said. He was taken to Chulalongkorn General Hospital for treatment and Iranian documents were found on him.
Another man arrested at the airport holds an Iranian passport and is one of the two men who left the bombing at the house, the Thai government said, adding that he was identified as Mohammad Hasai, 42. He was about to leave for Malaysia, the government said.
Authorities charged those two men with several offenses, including illegal possession of explosives and intent to kill a police officer, said Gen. Pansiri Prapawat, deputy police commander.
Before Malaysia announced the arrest of a man in connection with the bombings Wednesday, Thai authorities had said they were looking for a third man and a woman whom they believe were renting the house.
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After seeing this, maybe that whole killing the saudi ambassador isn't such an outlandish plot after all.

Mr. Conspiracy · Feb 15, 2012

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/17/world/asia/thailand-terrorism/index.html?iref=obinsite

Thai police said Tuesday that they would seek court permission to extend the detention of a Lebanese man they have charged with illegal possession of explosive materials.
The move comes amid tension after the United States and Israel warned their citizens in Bangkok on Friday of the possibility of an imminent terrorist attack.
The police charged the man, Atris Hussein, on Monday after finding "initial chemical materials that could produce bombs" in an area just outside Bangkok. The police said Hussein, who also holds a Swedish passport, led them to the location.
The authorities are accusing Hussein of trying to attack spots in Bangkok that are popular with Western tourists and say he is believed to belong to Hezbollah, the Shiite Muslim group active in Lebanon that the United States views as a terrorist organization
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teammellieIRANfan · Feb 15, 2012

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

You can read the earlier article I posted where it stated that the man was iranian. But as always with time more information comes forward.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/15/world/asia/thailand-blasts-iranians/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

After seeing this, maybe that whole killing the saudi ambassador isn't such an outlandish plot after all.
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I know the link said that the ones in Thailand were Iranian, I didnt challenge that. But I have yet to see hard proof that this operation (in India) was funded by the Iranian gov. Sure we have the "Thai-link" (and I'll get back to that). Thanks for the article. It was quite a comical read.

Btw did they capture the man in India?

Now to this ridiculous Thailand operation
What was the motive behind the attack in Thailand?
And Iranian documents found on the perpetrators in Thailand? ROFL!
Im sorry but this smells like such horseshit. Iran would fund Iranian terrorists in Thailand for no apparent reason and Thai authorities just happen to find Iranian documents on the terrorists that could potentially link it to the regime? lol
In light of that I am seriously doubting or am skeptical as to whether or not the operations (both of them) was done by the Iranian gov.
Ask yourself, does this sound logical and believable?
Simply laughable and hard to believe when taken into consideration comparing previous operations done by Iran. Like the Lebanon bombings in 83. Now compare the two and contrast. It doesnt compute.

The alleged Saudi assassination plot sounds like a big fat joke and hoax to me as well considering what we have been told about it. It honestly does not sound believable to any extent.

Mani · Feb 15, 2012

Mr. Conspiracy said: ↑

http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/14/abrams-turning-point-in-bahrain/?hpt=wo_r1
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Written by Elliott Abrams, a notorious Neocon .

The problem is, the "mainstream" narrative on Bahrain and Syria has been set by people like Elliott Abrams, who couldn't care less about the people of Bahrain or Syria, and whose real agenda is obvious to anyone with a brain.

odessit19 · Feb 16, 2012

http://news.yahoo.com/thailand-iranians-planned-attack-israelis-031306592.html

Thailand: Iranians planned to attack Israelis

"I can tell you that the target was specific and aimed at Israeli diplomatic staff," police chief Gen. Prewpan Dhamapong told a Thai television station late Wednesday.
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I am sure he's lying though...

Mani · Feb 16, 2012

I am sure he is not lying. But where is the evidence that they were working on behalf of the Iranian state? Who is to say this is not a false flag by Israel and their favorite terrorists MEK given the recent revelations by US officials that Israel is indeed working with MEK against Iran. MEK members are Iranians after all, and they are crazy enough to pull something like this for their cult leaders. Not long ago, seven members of MEK set themselves on fire in France, after the French police raided their leaders`residence.

Mani · Feb 16, 2012

Ladies and gentleman, meet the Israeli ally and proxy MEK!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlNWErYCGw"]Cult of the Chameleon - Al Jazeera 10/17/2007 - YouTube[/ame]

odessit19 · Feb 16, 2012

Mani said: ↑

I am sure he is not lying. But where is the evidence that they were working on behalf of the Iranian state? Who is to say this is not a false flag by Israel and their favorite terrorists MEK given the recent revelations by US officials that Israel is indeed working with MEK against Iran. MEK members are Iranians after all, and they are crazy enough to pull something like this for their cult leaders. Not long ago, seven members of MEK set themselves on fire in France, after the French police raided their leaders`residence.
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You really think that MEK would do this for Israel? You also don't think anyone loyal to IRI could or would do something like this?