Scoring is AZ: Jozy at Alkmaar

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  1. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    AZ lose 2-0, Jozy plays the second half and fans on a sitter (though he may have been screened from the pass). He also plays this half in the two-striker set with Benschop... abysmal.

    Looks to me right now that striker is the least of Verbeek's worries and that he screwed up by playing his little head games with a first place side - which, it bears noting, he had never coached until now.
     
  2. Dynasty1558

    Dynasty1558 Member

    Sep 3, 2011
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Can't think of anyone that had a good game for AZ. That defense was absolutely abysmal.

    Jozy really should have scored that cross though
     
  3. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Yeah, it was hard to tell if he didn't see it clearly until it passed the defender or just missed it because he assumed it wouldn't get through to him instead of focusing.
     
  4. El Michael

    El Michael Member

    Dec 17, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    It's so true in many sports where coaches out smart themselves. Hopefully AZ can regain their form.
     
  5. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm guessing selling Wernbloom was a problem for them.
     
  6. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Yes, to an extent, but their slide started at the beginning of December. Frankly, I thought they needed another reliable DM even before selling him. It's not a deep team.
     
  7. Antario2

    Antario2 Member

    Jan 29, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Only to be expected. AZ have performed well above their means first part of the season. A top 4 finish would be a very good result. The Roda game highlights the importance to the team of the suspended Elm.

    As for Jozy, can't expect a player who has been a sub last few years to play all of AZ's 50+ games this season and a few call ups for the national team. Verbeek is bound to be extra cautious given his experience with AZ's previous striker and glass cannon Sigterson. I'm sure Jozy will remain first choice but Benschop speed can be tactically more usefull in games where AZ expects to play on the break.

    Jozy is improving his passing game and link up play, is good at creating space for his teammates and he is still a decent finisher. Unfortunately he still doesn't use his physique very well in duels. He is prone to lose possession due to his poor ball handling and technique which makes him relatively easy to defend.

    The teams good league performance has also been a bit of a problem for him as his development can't really keep up with fan expectations. Jozy's play doesn't compare too favorably against more talented and developed young strikers of rival teams like Luuk de Jong, John Guidetti or Wilfried Bony. Still, I'm sure he will get more time to improve his game nor is AZ in any hurry to replace him as higher grade strikers are well above the clubs budget.
     
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  8. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Agreed on everything, but of course Bony and De Jong have tons more match experience at the club level. In reality, this is only Jozy's first proper full season of playing in Europe.
     
  9. Antario2

    Antario2 Member

    Jan 29, 2012
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Yeah, that's true. There is still a lot of potential for growth left in Jozy. Just game experience alone will do him a world of good. The only limiting factor I can see is his technique, that's pretty much a combination of natural talent and youth development, much harder to train at a higher age.
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile, here in America, we have Al Davis, famous for "Just win, baby," and the immortal Herm Edwards

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMk5sMHj58I"]Herm Edwards- Greatest Coach Ever! - YouTube[/ame]

    Seriously, Ffan, this is just a cultural difference here. Americans just are never going to agree with what you're arguing.
     
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  11. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    He made 28 appearances with Hull. Call it his second proper full season.
     
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  12. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking the same thing.
     
  13. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    You're right. For some reason, I was thinking he played 19 games that year, but that's how many starts he had.

    Really though... 19 starts, 28 games about amounts to a full MLS season worth of games. He could still end up starting 30-40 matches this campaign, which is more along the line of a full Euro-season. The schedule is a good bit larger for clubs in Europe.
     
  14. irish56

    irish56 Member+

    Oct 30, 2006
    indy
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Idk, FCD played 46 competitive matches last season, LAG 46
    If I didn't miss any matches Az played 47 last season.
     


  15. Funny enough Ronald Waterreus quoted me almost completely sunday evening in the Soccer show Studio Voetbal. So it is nice to be confirmed by people in soccer shows.
     
  16. soccersonoma10

    Apr 26, 2007
    A poor example. Al Davis was famous for turning players careers around, and for molding talent into wins. Ever hear of Jim Plunkett? Al Davis signed him when he was a backup on the niners, and he became a super bowl MVP on the Raiders.

    So that my post is semi related to thread: Jozy should be used to playing as a lone striker, that excuse doesn't fly for me. I've seen him do it for the nats, and during his nomadic club years(albeit sparingly). All Jozy needs at this point is to come in off the bench and bag a goal, or change a game. He obviously showed his class at the beginning of the year, now its about recapturing it. This is where good players and average players are separated.
     
  17. Jabez Ramone

    Jabez Ramone Member

    Dec 16, 2009
    Southern California
    Yeah, and Al Davis was also known as a bitter, petty man, who could keep a grudge better than anyone, even if it meant benching a hall of fame running back at the peak of his career.
     
  18. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Followed by 2 decades of an inability to adjust to a changing environment and aspirations for mediocrity.
     
  19. Reignking

    Reignking Member

    Feb 16, 2005
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And wearing Depends.
     
  20. Ironkick14

    Ironkick14 Member+

    Sep 29, 2011
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jozy scored two today, in the only time in history where a brace may have worsened his position in the team, as the person he was benched in favor of, Benschop, scored a hat trick.
     
  21. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Yeah he doubled his season's total in today's match. But I'm sure if Jozy can get him self in order, the manager will return him to his starting place. The team got so far using him up top. why mess up a good thing?
     
  22. prowazekii

    prowazekii Member

    Jun 21, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jozy could spin it to say that he scored a goal per 7 minutes on the field while Benschop only scored one for every 25 minutes he played. That make Jozy more than 3 times better. ;)
     
  23. NYRBA1

    NYRBA1 Member

    Feb 4, 2011
    apparently the coach said some blunt things about jozy in the after match interview, anyone know anything about this?
     
  24. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
  25. jakepc42

    jakepc42 Member+

    Mar 26, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The coach is a real tool. Thats all i'll say.
     

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