do you think k-league lacks cooperation and interaction with other leagues in the region? in contrast, some j-league teams, for example, associate themselves with some of asean leagues such as s-league. the source nations for k-league's foreign players are also relatively limited compared with j-league; they are mostly from brazil and eastern european countries. another perspective of comparison to consider is that traditionally numerous korean players have played for j-league ever since its inauguration, but it is not neccesarily the other way round. what do you guys think? if you agree with some of my observations do you perceive these points about k-league as negative or positive for its wellbeing?
This has very little to do with being "closed minded" and everything to do with money. Korean internationals go to Japan because J-League clubs pay better. Japanese internationals don't go to Korea because they can make more money in Japan. And the foreign players in Japan come from mostly the same places K-League players come from, Brazil, E. Europe and... Korea. But again, J-League, maybe, has a wider array of imports simply because the teams can offer more money.
I never understood why K and J Leagues never assumed confederation-leadership-status like some of the top West Asian leagues or MLS in the USA. Many MLS players come from minnow Central American countries that can't make the direct jump to Europe. Perhaps it is because players from other East/South Asian countries aren't good enough - or unmotivated to go to K/J in the case of the Chinese league. However, I must say that prior to Sasa Drakulic's 2001 season, it was a Thai player in the early 90's named Piyapong Pue-on was the first foreigner to score the most goals in a K-League season. (He tied with a Korean though)
I don't think K-league management are closed minded, they are just incompetent at promoting their teams. K-League has some good teams, yet the teams popularities as well as the league's are below those of the J-League. K-league may have the best team in east Asia, but no one would know it because their PR works really stinks.
Not exactly. I think K-League lacks exposure and marketting. The J is successful in this area but they still do not have a super club. A few super clubs in Korea and Japan will spark more footie exposure in Asia. Time will solve. * still crossing my fingers for a Seoul UTD *
the main reason why i think J league was such a success was they planned the league and got the community invloved for 10 YEARS before they started the league. 10 YEARS they advertised their teams and revenue and got the community to love the team korea on the other hand, dead bald head prez Chun made K league to get the ppl's minds off of politics and organized the league in what? 2 years?
There's big differences between J-league teams and K-league teams. K-league teams run by corporates and they do it for their own PR, not for the team. There's pros and cons on this. Pros is that they dont have to worry about money that much as long as corporate isnt bankrupted, so they can stay in competitive level wether fans shows up or not. (they rely on corps's money not fan's pocket) Cons... I think most of you all already well know it.
Yes, very true. This has been a major difference that sets apart between J-league teams and K-league teams. But not anymore. K-league teams like Daejeon, FC Daegu and Incheon Utd are run by the citizens of their cities, similar to what you see in European teams. Their sole motive is to establish close ties with the communities in their cities and thus increase the fan base. And so far, it seems like they have been pretty successful at making it effective. If they persist in attracting a large fan base, I think other teams in K-league will definately follow their path. ( As a matter of fact, it's already happening. Teams like Busan I.Cons, Bucheon SK, Pohang Steelers and Ulsan Tigers who are currently run by the corporates, have made plan to transform into Citizen-based teams. )
essvee, you might already have seen this, but Seoul United replica kits are already being manufactured...
WOW, i love those Kits, Now i'm definitley rooting for Seoul United. I'm confused here, is Seoul United in the running for next year to be in K-League or just some stupid suggestion by a fan?
Most folk figured that if a new Seoul side was to be created for the 2004 season then the movement behind Seoul United would have seen it come through... as it was, they stole Anyang and now FC Seoul are not too popular. They had some big meeting last weekend with some consultancy group and fans involved discussing the feasability of getting the club off the ground - not sure what the eventual plan is with regard to K-League or K2 league entry. You can buy the kit from www.kitbag.co.kr or www.soccer24.co.kr for only 45,000 won.
I've been reading here and there sniffing around and I've come up with some interesting facts: The J.League has grown rapidly because it has sold its TV rights to BS (NHK) for little YEN. When NHK recieved such great market value it began to show 5 live games per week and immediately following the games at 9 o clock they aired a J.League special. I've noticed this also. When I lived in Korea, on saturdays and sundays, all that was on BS-1 and 2 was the J. The average attendance for the J when it was first started was over 20K. By the mid 90's it fell below Korea's attendance and after NHK released maximum exposure of the league during weekends, the J-League's average attendance are now around 19000. This is what Korea lacks. If they want to sell tickets to the fans, then they need to wrap everything up and look nice. Nobody is going to want to root for a team with a ugly stadium, ugly jerseys, and empty stands.
Yea but the problem is that it looks too Juve. For a Milan fan like me.... I can't wait until the REAL Seoul team gets created. Can't wait to see the derby match between the real Seoul team and the fake one with most of the fans cheering the new one. (unless LG starts hiring those mobs)
yea i guess it kinda looks like Juventus kits, my 1st thoughts were it looked like Newcastle United kits...meeeh i love those black and white stripe kits, they look good... Well K-League got to pull/do something if they want to increase the attendance, the way they are going, it will never be increased...
Bucheon SK's 2000 away kit... I saw a couple of folk wearing Seoul United shirts at the FC Seoul v Suwon game today.. good stuff.