magicJack terminated?

Discussion in 'NWSL' started by EyesOnBall, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    That's what porn is for ... this forum is SERIOUS!!!!
     
  2. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    You know, I have defended DB's right to be heard (and still do) and even have questioned the leagues professionalism and motives. And I still have questions like does it really cost over $9,000 for uniforms in a season? My God that's a lot of money.

    However, after reading all this "stuff" that Beau had made available, and if that's how he really acted toward his partners, WPS front office people, sponsors, players, etc, etc., it would be hard to see how anyone can work or be nice to a guy like that. I don't know how the other owners kept their cool. I'm not a fan of the WPS front office, but according to those details they got verbally abused, big time. And after reading that according to the league, he has been invited to several meetings over time to voice his opinion and be heard and he just never showed up, I'ts hard to feel sorry for him anymore.

    I still don't like that the league terminated the team and I still wish they would have came out with a kind statement to the South Forida fans, but I can see the league's point in just having enough of this BS and not wanting to work with someone who is acting like an all out a_shole.
     
  3. fire123

    fire123 Member+

    Jul 31, 2009
    +1
    Good one Leo.
     
  4. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the League (meaning front office) get most of the money from league corporate sponsor's for the operation expense of the league and front offices? That may explain why they are so adamant about putting sponsorship boards up.
     
  5. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I so hope that he gets crushed in court with a female African-American presiding judge...

    In another, he referred to the Atlanta Beat team as the "low paid ghetto team" and said that the players were "pa[id]...in food stamps." The Atlanta Beat is owned by Johnson, who is black.

    http://deadsp.in/vXxBL4
     
  6. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I can see the correlation, but pulling the race card here is unwarranted. He did have black players playing for him.

    I am assuming he was meaning how cheap Atlanta players were being payed? And how Atlanta had decided to dump many of its USWNT players rather then pay them?
     
  7. newsouth

    newsouth Member

    Nov 20, 2010
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    and i'm willing to bet Al Davis did the same thing with NFL owners when he moved the Raiders from Oakland - Los Angeles. It's been noted by other owners he was a foul SOB. Since no one had the internet back than or in its' current form, there was no forum to gossip about. Either MJ is back or not. Who cares what is in all those documents! There's no way I'm sitting and reading all that. DB is to the WPS what a young Al Davis was to the NFL. if the WPS the MLS, no one would give a #### because the MLS is men like the NFL vs the WPS being a bunch of women.
     
  8. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    I doubt Borislow is racist. In fact, from speaking with him several times, I'm convinced he is not. He loves the WNT and near-WNT players on his team, including Shannon Boxx and Tina Ellertson.

    But a poor choice of words? Perhaps. And the league's point in bringing it was that it could bring negative publicity to the league if something like that were said publicly.

    Not sure it's among the league's strongest points, but that's their argument. They don't say Borislow's racist, either -- only that such words could be perceived badly.
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Read the legal documents
     
  10. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    methinks newsouth has a clearly stated position on the importance of being informed in this matter.

     
  11. StevieBeat

    StevieBeat Member

    Apr 9, 2011
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I believe that probably also includes replica jerseys made for retail (check ebay and you can find the rather fetching 2011 Freedom kits). I'm sure Puma ended up with a pile of the obsolete jerseys and were forced to dump them wholesale Also, each player gets 8 different jerseys with home/away + short/long sleeve x 2 for backup jerseys, so they may have had those already made as well.
     
  12. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Plus rain gear, cold weather gear, bags, balls, training gear. It might also include shoes for players without a shoe contract.
     
  13. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm sorry, but I genuinely care about the future of the league: for the sake of the fans, the players, the future of women's soccer, the future of the women's national team, and the dreams of the girls who hope to someday play at this level. I'm here for a lot more than just the fun of it, and I can't say I'm terribly pleased to find someone here who's only pretending to give a ****.
     
  14. SCCL

    SCCL Member

    Oct 31, 2001
    amen!!!
     
  15. pasoccerdad

    pasoccerdad Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    KOP
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Must SPread Rep before giving it to Startcityfan
     
  16. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Same....
     
  17. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    covered
     
  18. newsouth

    newsouth Member

    Nov 20, 2010
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    :rolleyes:

    What's this? Like any sports fan, I have my favorite team. That's nonsense that fans can't have a favorite in the WPS, just support everything about the league including all the ills. Your favorite team tends to also have your favorite stars. I'm sure WPSmagicjack.com isn't happy after putting in hours for that site.

    Anyway, after looking at what Philly had to say, these guy aint interested in MJ even if they loose the court case, so life goes on. My guess is USSF will give them a waiver again but they need to get their act together. I'm tired of jumping teams. I really enjoyed playing cheerleader for Magic Dan and the Jacks.

    Now, I'm torn between Boston (Kelly Smith and Alex Scott) or Atlanta :rolleyes: (Didn't think I'd ever post a Fitz :rolleyes: team). Yeah, Fitz signed one player he should have drafted. Lets see if he tries to play France (Delie) with a lone striker up top with no one (as in players he doesnt have to pay) behind Press. Sounds like Fitz to me.

    Anyway,

    Defunk Jacks.
     
  19. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where the heck did I say anything like that? :confused: It's a pretty ridiculous claim considering that I ran the main supporters group for one of the teams.
     
  20. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got'cha covered as well.
     
  21. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Sure, and that team has its own board. This is the public area, not the rivalries forum.

    Unless you can be bothered to read the court documents that make the owner of the team you support look like an ass, or you can't seem to stop using pejoratives to refer to other teams - and stick to the facts, maybe the public area isn't where you belong. Find a rivalries forum, or stick to the forum dedicated to your favorite team.

    Basically, you've spent the last few weeks adding absolutely nothing to the discussion about he league. Sharing your opinion -which is as valid as mine or anyone elses - is fine. Repeating in every other post multiple times a day, is tiring. We get it. You don't think Atlanta is a "real" team, you think everyone is somehow against Dan Borislow, the savior of WPS. Great.

    We get it. Either engage rationally, stop acting like a spoiled child not getting their way, or find somewhere else to spew your bile. Like the forum dedicated to the team that your fan of. Constantly crapping in the common area makes it an unpleasant for everybody.

    And my issue isn't that we disagree - my issue is that you are unwilling to engage in polite, rational discussion. I disagree with many of the other posters here. That's not a problem.

    This isn't a rivalries forum. If you want to claim that everyone is against Dan Borislow, but you're not willing to peruse the legal filings, or even DeadSpin's excellent summation, then you're just trolling.

    You can go be a fan of your team with the other fans of your team. If you want to discuss league issues without constantly referring to the Atlanta Beat as a .5 team because you don't agree with the owner's decision making, then I'm pretty sure this isn't the place for you.
     
  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    repped
     
  23. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    newsouth, I am one who was willing to give DB the benefit of the doubt and I still don't like the idea of folding a financially sound team. But if you take the time to read what Beau put out for us (I was one who wanted more information) in all the motions, counter-motions, email clippings, memos sent out by fellow owners, comments made by DB to WPS front office people, fellow owners, etc., etc., you cannot help but come to a conclusion that this guy was just plain hard to work with even with the most laid back and understanding people. After reading this "stuff", it's hard not to conclude that he acted like a bigtime condescending as_hole to many he dealt with and that includes sponsors. People who actually give you money.

    It's tiresome and strenuous working with someone like that. I imagine being a WPS owner while loosing money is strenuous enough without having to deal with someone who gives you a headache on a daily basis.

    I don't feel sorry for him. Still feel bad for the fans in South Florida.
     
  24. Crazy Old Lady

    Crazy Old Lady New Member

    May 22, 2003
    just outside Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta Beat
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    To:---AndyMead, SiberianThunderT and MRAD12

    Well Said and Thank You
     
  25. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beau Dure reports on twitter that WPS & mJ were back in court today.

     

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