Occupy Wall Street

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  1. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
    Colorful Colorado
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    I'd like to see some of the OWSers start packing heat, just for the comedic value when Fox News and the other usual suspects start losing their shit.
     
  2. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Possibly. Depends on the circumstances.
     
  3. CHICO13

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    Oct 4, 2001
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    Here you go.....whoops, wrong protest group, my bad
     
  4. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    Well, to be fair, the few cops who were caught using pepper spray unnecessary have promptly been suspended pending an investigation.

    Maybe some people would like to think that there is some sinister plot by supporters of some mythical one percent group conspiring to incite cops to mistreat the protesters. But the reality is that we've only had some isolated incidents here and there, and those incidents have been frowned upon by mostly everybody, even by those who are sick and tired of all the urinating and defecating and overt drug use that's taking place in our city parks.

    It seems to me that with a few notable exceptions that have been highly publicized, the cops for the most part have been remarkably restrained, and they are trying their best to follow their orders and do their job without resorting to violence.
     
  5. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    Oct 4, 2001
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    Like Scott Olsen the Iraq veteran who got shot in the head by a tear gas canister and was critical. If he would have died it would have made the movement legit?
     
  6. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
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    They need to be ****ing FIRED, period but in the greatest irony of all ironies you know why they won't be? Because they have a UNION to stand behind them and save their asses. Maybe somebody should hip them to that while they're clubbing and pepper spraying citizens.
     
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  7. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    CA Boca Juniors
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    I suppose that is one of the problems with unions. In the process of defending all the good workers against potential unfair treatment by management, they usually also defend the few bad apples, even when they clearly don't deserve it.

    It probably gets more publicity when it happens to cops, but it happens in just about every other place where workers are union. So you get unions defending bad cops, bad nurses, bad teachers, bad construction workers, and so on, all dangerous in their own ways.

    But I bet most union workers, including cops, will take that tradeoff if it means that they will also get defended when it's actually warranted.
     
  8. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Not particularly because it seems like the Oakland version is a bit of a bastardization to begin with.
     
  9. M

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    Feb 18, 2000
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    At least Buffet believes people like him should pay more taxes.
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

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    I guess right now the measure of good and evil is people's willingness to pay more taxes. Welcome to 21st century morality.
     
  11. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    They are both giving away the entirety of their wealth. What more do you want?
     
  12. Pathogen

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    Jul 19, 2004
    Like you care.
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Nice to see a point can still clearly fly over your head.
     
  13. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Chicago Fire
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    As a part of the GOP deification of the military, they've tossed in police/fire and other first responders as "heroes", that is until their labor contracts come up, then they're greedy lazy slackers like the rest of us.
     
  14. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    I believe a lot of people want to tell them how to and whom to give it away to.
     
  15. ElJefe

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    Mostly only as symbols, however.
     
  16. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    It was a stupid point. It would have been a better one if that was a picture of the constitutional convention.
     
  17. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    Oh, no doubt, as evidenced by the Walter Reed fiasco, disengaging from Afghanistan to Iraq with the wrong equipment, no occupation/transition plan for Iraq, assumption of how they would be greeted, etc, etc
     
  18. M

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    Feb 18, 2000
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    Odd, I never commented on anyone's evilness or otherwise. I was merely alluding to Buffet's view that people like him should pay more taxes, which is something of a contrast to the Republican's position.
     
  19. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    I would think that, when the entire 43-minute video at the bottom of this link is viewed, that there will be little or no disciplinary action taken against the Lt.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/19/uc-davis-police-pepper-spray-students_n_1102728.html
    There are 3 videos of increasing length, the final is 42:55.
    The officers, who were trying to leave with several arrested protestors, were blocked by the people on the sidewalk, who refused to move, then sat down. After an extended period of time, and lots of radio communication, only the people sitting & blocking the sidewalk, who refused to move or let the police through, were sprayed. Perhaps they should have been sprayed indirectly, or received leser doses. The hundreds of others surrounding the police were neither approached nor sprayed. Anyone suggesting that the officers should have shoved their way through the group blocking the sidewalk, with the arrestees, should realize that such a move would create a greater risk of violence.
     
  20. argentine soccer fan

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    Actually you were commenting on this:

    So, I was merely following the same train of thought.
     
  21. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    Do any of those kids look capable of violence?
     
  22. M

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    Feb 18, 2000
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    This is what is so concerning over the actions of the police at UC Davis (and several other places): the seeming disproportionality of the police response. The chancellor has a lot of explaining to do imo. I very much doubt that police officer acted on his own in deciding to pepper spray those students.
     
  23. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    They were cut off from their support! Its f'ing Dien Bien Phu out there!

    If they think like they are facing 'The Enemy' (tm) they will act like it.

    Fire them all and start over.
     
  24. JBigjake

    JBigjake Member+

    Nov 16, 2003
    Perhaps the guy with the beard yelling "******** the police".
    Seriously, though, you want the police to start dragging/carrying a half-dozen uncooperative arrestees through a group blocking their way, with hundreds surrounding them yeling "Let them go!"? What could possibly go wrong?
     
  25. Petersontj

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    Jul 24, 2011
    NYC
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    Ft Lauderdale Strikers
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    United States
    that's not my concern as much as them yelling "Let them go and we'll let you go"
     

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