2012 Pre-season Thread I - the Quest for Quality [R's]

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  1. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As a starter? No. As a backup? I wouldn't mind at all provided we see upgrades in other positions this offseason.
     
  2. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well our primary backup at CM is McCarthy.
     
  3. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You need more than one, and I think Benny-Shalrie/quality Shalrie replacement-McCarthy-Tierney is not bad at all for a CM depth chart at the MLS level. IMO this is the only place on the roster that doesn't need too much work this offseason (unless Shalrie leaves obviously)
     
  4. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I disagree, I don't think Shalrie is capable of playing CDM anymore. He's a traffic cone, and his positioning doesn't make up for his lack of mobility.

    This is one position which we certainly need to upgrade in the off season.
     
  5. Pinowski AP

    Pinowski AP Member

    Jun 25, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd prefer a quality replacement, but think about it: as far as starting positions go besides CM, we need a striker, left wing, left back, center back, right back (unless you like Alston, I personally think he's not very good), and possibly even a keeper because neither Reis or Shuttleworth have looked very good. Realistically, we're not going to be able to replace everyone we have to, and I think Shalrie is the best of the players we'd like to replace if possible. He's much slower than he used to be, but still decent and worthy of starting for one more year if he decides to rejoin. I think we need to get Lekic, Tierney, Coria/Barnes/Cochrane, Guy (perfect player to go to off the bench), Alston, and even Reis/Shuttleworth out of the starting XI first.
     
  7. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Assuming for a moment that we retain Lekic, Caraglio, Feilhaber, Zerka, and Guy (not all of whom are under contract or guaranteed), I would say no. Even more so if this Perovic rumor turns out to be true.

    The offseason has to focus on overhauling the defense. If we can stop the bleeding in the back, the offense might actually be okay.

    EDIT: I would edit this to say I would take a chance on Convey if we had the opportunity. We've got money to burn, so unless there's a DP defender coming in, I think there's no serious harm done by taking him.
     
  8. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Overreact much?
     
  10. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You hear about the lawsuit he's filing?
     
  11. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    Ha--just found out that Cory Gibbs won the Chicago Fire defensive player of the year award. Nice touch on top of Sinovic's year at KC.

    We need to replace our entire defense except for Soares. GK included.

    And Tierney, once and for all, is not a left back.

    He's slow as molasses and can't defend. Just because he can cross isn't a reason to give up so much else defensively.

    Did anyone in the league have a weaker set of CBs than us?

    Soares-Coria-Barnes-Cochrane is laughable. The last three must go.
     
  12. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd keep Barnes for CB and LB depth unless we can trade him for something better
     
  13. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be great to see what our CBs could have done with a competent defensive midfield in front of them.

    Joseph was a non factor on defense, and absolute traffic cone, and Benny got caught up the field a lot.
     
  14. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, I haven't. Care to elaborate?
     
  15. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here you go.
     
  16. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    He filed a lawsuit against the club he was at in DC the night of his accident for $20 million in damages. He's claiming that the girl who has driving the car was overserved and that the club should be responsible. While I don't think he has much of a case I'm unsure of why the earlier poster is so upset and angered about this.
     
  17. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't usually go into politics in these threads. I'm a very political person, I work campaigns, and in my spare time me and my buddies talk about grassroots issue advocacy and ways to improve the system of drawing electoral districts, for instance. I feel these threads aren't an appropriate place to talk about politics. We're not Left Wing or Right Wing here, we're the voice of 143.

    But god, do we need tort reform in this country or what?
     
  18. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    haha you're a loser
     
  19. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you mean, get rid of restrictions on tort lawsuits, I agree.
     
  20. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I support a more nuanced and global solution. Eliminate the caps but also reduce the truly frivolous
     
  21. Jeremy Goodwin

    Jeremy Goodwin Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's no way to do that that doesn't deny justice to those who aren't rich enough to pay their opponent's lawyers.

    We're already in a justice only for the rich system though, so I guess it doesn't matter.

    The poor can basically turn to James Sokolov or they can go without any chance in the civil courts.
     
  22. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Charlie Davies suing a bar because some woman got drunk there is good for the country because...
     
  23. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nicely misconstrued.
     
  24. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's all the information I have about the case. If there is anything else, please keep me posted
     
  25. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution


    If you can't see that you misconstrued Jeremy's point, then perhaps I can't help you.
     

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