I hope you aren't suggesting that an owner should promote his/her product. That's not being very fair. We should all feel lucky enough that he gives us a team at all. All Hail Bob!
Because we didn't draw many fans when we were a good team and Kraft is obviously part of the problem. He also called Gillette a nice stadium, unless he was being sarcastic which I didn't detect. We do need better management of course but besides that, that was a genuinely terrible post.
This was actually raised on the Patriots pregame show during an interview with J. Kraft. He said the families are friends, that owning the Revs and Patriots do not detract from each other. He also said that his dinner with Jerry Jones last night was late because both families had something to do until late at night? Revs game?
Regardless of whether the product was good at one time or another is irrelevant. The structure of MLS was setup to ensure that everyone would be competitive at some point. He said we should demand a better product. Do you disagree that we, as fans/consumers, should not demand a better product? Gillette is nice. It sucks for 12 thousand people, and lend itself to the best atmosphere even when it's full, but it is nice. I personally hate it for a variety of reasons, atmosphere being one of them. However, my biggest gripe is that it's over 30 miles from where I live, with not access to public transit.
Year in, and year out, the most galling aspect for Revolution supporters is that the Krafts prove they can operate a world class sports organization with the Patriots, yet PAY so little care to the Revolution. The Krafts could have a championship-driven soccer team, if they wanted one. But they obviously don't care enough to do that, or they would.
I meant nice for soccer, I thought that was implied. And the fact we were once good does matter, because the average attendance isn't changed from now. This is on Kraft, because we play our home games in his stupid stadium in the middle of nowhere with no public transportation or atmosphere. Yes, we do need a better product, but that is going to require Kraft himself to make a much bigger effort than he historically has. We can possibly be a good on field product again someday, but we will never be an all around good product until we have an SSS in a location accessible to far more fans with public transit.
You do realize I've boycotted the better part of the past 2 seasons by not attending games live right? Once per year is my quota and I've reached it this year at the Philly game to show solidarity with the Fort. So yell at someone else.
That was a sarcastic reply with the eye-roll meant for all of the sycophant Revs fans on this board, not you in particular.
No group of fans have ever demanded a better product. Some fans come and go. Some fans cheer, while others are disgusted by futility. Other than one night this year, there has never been an organized and large scale demand for better circumstances. I blame the supporters just as much as I blame Kraft. So long as the supporters don't demand better, Kraft will not provide better.
Why? Gillette is a house of apathy. The owners don't care. The players don't care. The fans don't care. There is no accountability, because no one holds them accountable. Just keep buying your season tickets, and not doing anything about the shitty product you pay for.
I was one of the many nonrenewers. We don't have to start an organized riot, the miserable attendance figures next season will do all the talking. There are some who will still go obviously, but I think we're going to see a significant decrease if Nicol returns and nothing has changed next year.
No one has suggested a riot. So, trying to marginalize this debate with manipulation is pretty much a waste of everyones time. People cancel their season tickets every year. They do it in droves. Nothing is ever done, because the Revs will hit their averages with a few friendlies, and high school soccer nights. They won't listen to the fans, until they actually say something.
It was a hyperbole. And I'm not against a protest honestly, but I think further declining ticket sales will have a greater impact. I truly believe if things don't change this offseason, there will be far more people opting not to renew than usual. This season has sucked the hope out of everybody, whereas last year there was still the chance it was just an off year. Even with the friendlies, I think ticket sales could get pretty ugly next year.
I would be concerned with the "Miami Effect": lose the team, and be considered a dead-end for soccer.
Great point. If the team folds and the Krafts are out of the soccer picture, Boston may need to "prove" itself - maybe a minor league team moves in to Harvard Stadium and shares the facility with the Breakers and Cannons. Then, if the business case is strong enough, maybe the new owners seek to build a SSS.
I think it'll be more severe than past years, the hope that we're not a complete shit team is gone after a second even worse year.
Problem is the Revs have good sales people so they're able to mitigate the attendance losses by massaging the numbers in other ways.
Don't kid yourself, that's entirely possible. Right now we are at 19 teams and Garber has serious wood for New York as #20. For a variety of reasons that hasn't happened, but suppose some other owner in a major market (Detroit, Atlanta, St. Louis, etc.) comes up with a deep-pocketed owner and a stadium. They become #20 and then what? Guess who would be a prime candidate to become [PA announcer voice]Yoooooouuuuuur Neeeew York Coooos-mooos![/PA announcer voice] Be careful what you wish for. But are they good? Really? If they were, we wouldn't be in this mess, woud we? Yeah, they are good at organizing these one-off "group" nights for teams, high schools, college night, cub scouts, etc. Great. But they seem to be pretty bad at attracting repeat customers.