MLS Attendance Analysis: Week 31

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by edwardgr, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh New England. You had to go and snap the streak. I guess it was bound to happen at some point but for some reason I did not expect it this past weekend.

    Code:
    RB New York	25186
    Vancouver	20113
    New England	9111
    Seattle   	36304
    [B]Total       	90714[/B]
    [B][COLOR="Red"]Average  	22679[/COLOR][/B]
    Of course this upcoming week has a full slate as we enter the home stretch. Including a Seattle match that announced 55k sold as of this past Saturday. They along with Colorado, Portland, Philadelphia, Dallas, Los Angeles, and Kansas City will wrap up their home season. Columbus of course did so two weekends ago.
     
  2. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Of course the numbers have remained just absolutely stellar, in the traditional ranking this season would have put up a 1.25 through the end of the week. However in the new style it is a '1'. Yup that's right first in everything except 20k+ percent, but very close to the 2007 numbers.

    Current Season:
    Code:
    Current	Average	Median	<10k	>20k	AvgPts	MedPts	<10kPts	>20kPts	AAAQ	AAAQRnk	Date
    1996	17352	15096	22.8%	26.2%	7	40	56	4	108	5	9/14
    1997	14382	12524	25.5%	14.8%	78	83	65	77	303	13	9/19
    1998	14156	11500	27.9%	15.1%	83	100	73	75	332	15	9/17
    1999	14409	13067	32.4%	15.1%	77	74	89	75	315	14	9/26
    2000	13455	12399	35.8%	11.2%	100	85	100	100	385	16	9/2
    2001	14650	13141	26.5%	16.3%	71	73	69	68	280	11	8/29
    2002	15412	13719	18.5%	16.2%	53	63	42	68	226	8	9/12
    2003	14677	13439	24.3%	17.9%	71	68	61	57	257	10	10/11
    2004	15445	13122	26.4%	25.0%	53	73	68	12	206	7	10/2
    2005	15000	12449	28.5%	17.3%	63	84	76	61	284	12	10/5
    2006	15138	13399	20.7%	16.8%	60	68	49	64	242	9	9/30
    2007	16505	15008	8.8%	26.9%	27	41	9	0	78	2	10/11
    2008	16391	15035	11.3%	25.1%	30	41	18	11	100	3	10/12
    2009	15841	14516	15.8%	20.1%	43	50	33	43	169	6	10/10
    2010	16494	15027	7.6%	22.0%	28	41	5	31	105	4	10/12
    2011	17647	17493	6.0%	26.7%	0	0	0	1	1	1	10/8
    
    Historical End of Season:
    Code:
    EOS	Average	Median	<10k	>20k	AvgPts	MedPts	<10kPts	>20kPts	AAAQ	AAAQRnk	Date
    1996	17410	15093	21.9%	26.3%	0	7	54	20	81	4	9/22
    1997	14606	12733	25.0%	16.3%	77	75	65	78	295	12	9/28
    1998	14312	11871	26.6%	16.1%	85	100	71	79	335	14	9/27
    1999	14282	12973	32.3%	15.1%	86	68	92	85	331	13	10/10
    2000	13756	12690	34.4%	12.5%	100	76	100	100	376	15	9/9
    2001	14961	13431	26.6%	17.7%	67	55	71	70	263	10	9/9
    2002	15821	14108	17.1%	18.6%	43	36	36	65	179	6	9/22
    2003	14900	13719	23.3%	18.0%	69	47	59	68	242	9	10/26
    2004	15549	13223	24.7%	25.3%	51	61	64	26	202	8	10/17
    2005	15112	12619	27.1%	17.7%	63	79	73	70	284	11	10/16
    2006	15426	14113	19.3%	18.2%	54	36	44	67	201	7	10/15
    2007	16767	15353	8.2%	29.7%	18	0	3	0	20	1	10/21
    2008	16460	15188	11.0%	24.8%	26	5	13	28	72	3	10/26
    2009	16037	14686	14.7%	20.9%	38	19	27	51	135	5	10/25
    2010	16675	15332	7.5%	22.5%	20	1	0	42	63	2	10/16
    
     
  3. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    At the risk of sounding like a broken record: In a crap economy, no less.
     
  4. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Finally the miscellany, Philadelphia in road match 31 topped 500k away attendance. Tied for 5th fastest overall, and best of the recent expansion teams.

    Not much changed in the comparitive numbers since we had so few games.

    Comparison to Last Season and All-Time:
    Code:
    ----Team----	Current	Last	Diff	Alltime	Diff
    Chicago    	14143	15814	-10.6%	15636	-9.5%
    Chivas USA	14373	14575	-1.4%	16053	-10.5%
    Colorado	14749	13329	10.7%	13907	6.1%
    Columbus	12185	14642	-16.8%	15465	-21.2%
    DC United	15127	14279	5.9%	17343	-12.8%
    FC Dallas  	13026	10815	20.4%	12154	7.2%
    Houston   	16924	17310	-2.2%	17245	-1.9%
    Kansas City	17678	10287	71.8%	10909	62.0%
    Los Angeles	23106	21437	7.8%	21973	5.2%
    New England	13030	12608	3.3%	15787	-17.5%
    Philadelphia	18201	19252	-5.5%	19252	-5.5%
    Portland   	18733	New	0.0%	New	0.0%
    Real Salt Lake	17420	17095	1.9%	16686	4.4%
    Red Bull NY	19356	18441	5.0%	16971	14.1%
    San Jose  	11928	9659	23.5%	12902	-7.5%
    Seattle    	36893	36173	2.0%	33535	10.0%
    Toronto FC	20183	20455	-1.3%	20263	-0.4%
    Vancouver	20582	New	0.0%	New	0.0%
    Overall   	17647	16675	5.8%	15502	13.8%
    
    Current Point to Seasons End and Prediction:
    Code:
    Year	Current	End	Diff	% Diff
    1996	17352	17410	58	0.3%
    1997	14382	14606	224	1.6%
    1998	14156	14312	156	1.1%
    1999	14409	14282	-127	-0.9%
    2000	13455	13756	301	2.2%
    2001	14650	14961	311	2.1%
    2002	15412	15821	409	2.7%
    2003	14677	14900	223	1.5%
    2004	15445	15549	104	0.7%
    2005	15000	15112	112	0.7%
    2006	15138	15426	288	1.9%
    2007	16505	16767	262	1.6%
    2008	16391	16460	69	0.4%
    2009	15841	16037	196	1.2%
    2010	16494	16675	181	1.1%
    2011	17647	17784	137	0.8%
    
    The final 21 matches only need an average of 14214 to top the 1996 average.
     
  5. flippin269

    flippin269 Member+

    Aug 3, 2003
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's another average to keep an eye on: 22,774. If the remaining 21 matches have that number as an average, MLS would average 18K in the 2011 season. Sounds HIGHLY unlikely, but hey, Seattle already has over 55K sold for this weekend right? If there's some last-game-of-the-season bump in attendance for the rest of the month, who knows.
     
  6. bbsbt

    bbsbt Member+

    Feb 26, 2003
    What's the deal with the Seattle upcoming high att number... why so high?
     
  7. soundermiki

    soundermiki Member+

    May 24, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keller's last regular season game, and it was sold with a three-game package (ManU and RBNY being the others), where the seating was opened up.
     
  8. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    Keller's last game at home.
     
  9. Prune

    Prune New Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Third match of the 3 game pack sold with the Man United friendly plus Keller's last regular season match.
     
  10. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Except not, because he will have a playoff game.
     
  11. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol

    That's kinda funny
     
  12. Bubba1971

    Bubba1971 Member+

    Nov 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LA is sold out, with standing room and grass berm tickets available. Of course, HDC sells out at 27,000 no matter what due to CSUDH rules.

    So 27,000 for LA this week.
     
  13. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, we have this scheduled for MLS action:

    Wed
    Chicago host FC Dallas. Chicago is still breathing for the Playoffs, hopefully it helps att.
    Vancouver hosts DC. BC place and VAN should post a big number: 20k or more.

    Fri
    Colorado hosts RSL in home finale. Rocky Mountain Cup. Should be decent number here.
    Portland hosts Houston. Guaranteed good number here.

    Sat
    SKC hosts NYRB. Home finale. Still a chance to finish #1 in the East. Expect a good #.
    Philadelphia hosts TFC. East leaders' home finale. Good number here.
    DC hosts Chicago. Playoffs last gleaming for DC. Should be decent.
    NE hosts Columbus. If there is a chance for a downer, this is it.
    FCD hosts Vancouver. No rest for the Hoops. Fun team to watch. Modest # here.
    Seattle hosts SJ. Keller finales. 57k plus sold already.

    Sun
    LA hosts Chivas. Sold out.

    While there maybe be a low number in NE, and possibly FCD, everything else looks pretty good. And of course Seattle and LA may get near 100k between them. Philly, KC, Portland, and Vancouver should all be 18k+.

    A good week for sure.
     
  14. doog

    doog Member

    Jun 11, 2006
    Looking into my crystal ball I see Portland with 20,323 in attendance.
     
  15. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Historical note. MLS Cup 2000 was held on October 15th.
     
  16. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    You are quite the optimist. LA = 27,000, while Seattle is at 57,000 with a few thousand more likely. That still hits the mid to upper 80s. Which is certainly nothing to complain about!:)
     
  17. soundermiki

    soundermiki Member+

    May 24, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, Sounders *might* get to 60-61k with walkups and the last minute advertising push (I've seen some advertising on TV; showed up on ESPN Monday Night football), but highly unlikely they'll sell out, even with the team being in good form and the last regular season match for Keller. And even if they did sell out, C-link holds 67k, which when you combine with LA's 27k gets you to 94k (certainly closer to 100k than not relatively speaking). As Sounder78 said though, nobody would be complaining with 80k+ attendance for two regular season games!
     
  18. McRob

    McRob Member

    Jan 17, 2010
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are updated total attendance figures posted anywhere? I'm sure I can figure out the numbers myself, but if someone else is already doing the work...
     
  19. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    Repped. Thanks for doing this every week.
     
  20. Looking at whats left on the schedule the league will smash the old record. With Montreal coming in next year I think 18k is quite realistic.
     
  21. szazzy

    szazzy Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Kansas City, MO
    When is Houston's stadium slated to open? Obviously that should help quite a bit as well as they've seemed to be stagnating a little bit in the last couple years.

    Dallas also has made significant improvements to their average this year, hopefully a sign that they've found some good people for their FO. If they can take another step next year, all the better. Seattle and Portland should have increased capacities too. I think we could easily reach 18k.
     
  22. thomas19064

    thomas19064 Member+

    Apr 29, 2008
    Delco
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saw on twitter a few days ago only 100 tickets were left for the Union game on Saturday... so expect 18500+.... maybe even 19K in philly after standing room.
     
  23. njzorrooo

    njzorrooo Member

    Dec 21, 2005
    Brooklyn, NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    NYRB also seems to be pushing to sell out their last game against Philly. They are giving away a jersey to anyone who buys a ticket in selected sections to the game.

    Also, Chris Heck, who was hired by NYRB in June, sent out an email to season ticket holders stating their approach. While there is only one game left this season, it may be a sign of things to come next season. Here's part of his email:

     
  24. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know a few weeks ago we said the +20k number from 1996 was out of reach at that time but we have had a bunch of +20k games since then. Is it still out of reach?
     
  25. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have deleted all the what is and is not a gimmick talk. Please lets not bring it up here again.
     

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