Tottenham v. Arsenal PL Pre/During/Post Matchday Thread [R]

We should just spend spend spend on quality players in Jan, just bring in the best of the bunch. To be honest, if I were Wenger I would be trying to bringing in Tevez, Hazard, Goetze, another center half and releasing Squilliaci and Djourou.

 

We can talk player performance and strategy all day, but the bottom line (in my humble opinion) is that Wenger lost this club a season or two ago and things have just gradually deteriorated since then. No one has faith in him to hold on to our most important players, to strategize effectively on the pitch or to motivate our current squad into believing in themselves. I'm not saying the players aren't to blame, of course they are, but the constant is Wenger. His aura just makes it so difficult to finally part ways with him and truly start a new chapter in the history of this football club.

Wrong thread, I know. Just needed to get that off my chest. Allez, a la prochaine.

 

your really blaming arteta for this? Ramsey/Gervino/Theo should all not start for us until they earn it, period.

 

Hey, after a quick shower I'm off to watch the Crew -- after getting to the top of the conference, 1 point from the last 18. And probably no better today against Publius's United. Believe me, Arsenal will rise again. The Crew, maybe not so much.

 

That, the best part is how Cesc left and then kept retreating that Arsenal need to keep Wenger.. Well mate if you believed in him, so why did you leave?

 

Wengner refused to shake hands with someone...shocker!

Honestly, it's time.

This team is so stale, gutless, and excuse-making.

Gazidis should not have a job period, he's been an abortion. Time for Wenger to leave too I think.

 

Imagine what is was like for RVP when he first joined the club. He must have been in awe of the players. He got to train with some of the best technicians the EL has ever seen. Now, when he scans the locker room, what does he see? A bunch of kids and mediocrity.

 

The frustrating thing for me, is that we don't the ability on consistent basis to get our best scorer RVP opportunities

On a positive note , Coquelin was outstanding today, top notch performance by the youngman.

 

It really speaks well of him to keep his mouth shut after what Wenger has done to the club.

 

Who has more to offer than Arteta in this position?

 

he's uncontested....thats why its worth bringing up.

 

Arteta is a nice player but not good enough- I think we needed a high high quality impact player, but all we got were excuses.

Oh but we tried with Gotze! Hazard didn't want to leave yet! Sustainable model!!!!111

What a ********ing piece of shit the management of this club has become.

 

It's not a big deal especially in a Derby.

 

the thing about arteta is he cannot be 'the' guy. he would be great in the ramsey role to 'the' guy named wilshere. with jack out, the depth chart moves up and, well, we arent that deep.

 

Today once again proved that Ramsey doesn't have what it takes to start for Arsenal. Arteta was no where to be found? How old are you again, Mikel? Per was so suspect today. I really can't even begin to explain how sad this game was. We controlled most of the game against all odds and didn't manage to win. AGAIN. At this point. Nothing has changed. This season will probably be the best thing to happen to Arsenal in the long run though. New manager, new philosophy, new players, and finally new start. I'm done with the board. They should all be sacked. Ridiculous.

 

honestly Spurs looked a little flat footed for good spurts throughout the match. I was surprised at the acres of space we had at certain moments. a direct or forward thinking AM was needed and unfortunately (for me anyways), Arteta did not stand up to be counted. Just more of the same static indecisiveness as the previous 4 matches. I hope he improves but to me Arteta just seems past it. Everything he seems to do appears a split second behind. Im not liking his rhythm at all.

 

Not exatcly true but I'll let you have your moment. If we moved earlier instead of holding out for 3 or 4 million we would have better players.

Also without Arteta what about that gap in midfield? No Jack or Diaby, he was a necessary buy. Arteta isn't the issue just an easy scapegoat because he isn't Cesc. The issue is right behind the strikers, that's on Ramsey who loves passing back.

 

This issue today wasn't Rambo passing back. It was Rambo passing to Spurs' players, out of bounds, and to no one in particular.

 

Exactly. Its this area of creativity that is killing us. We're completely find with the midfield to back 4 area. The problem is that Ramsey is being started there to be that creative spark and he isn't nowhere near ready for it. It hurts us more because Wilshere is injured but Wenger really should have went all out and bought a game changing AM this summer.

 

50/50 game that either side could have won or lost, but still not good enough. this team is disorganised, and that's down to more than the players. if arsene doesn't care about defending or organisation why should arsenal fans care about wenger?
best arsenal player: coquelin
worst arsenal player: ramsey

 

Sagna is gonna be out for a long time. Jenkinson can't be the full-time replacement.

What was the deal with the Eboue sale? Was he dying to get out and receive more first time action at another club?

Arsenal didn't make much from his sale and I always thought that he was a good utility player to have around that can fill in at a variety of spots.

 

Sagna bruck his fibula. Jesus