You have to admit this would be quite a departure in standard practice both by Germany and for national teams in general. It is one thing to have a player switch between a youth team level and a senior team level, it gets done quite a bit. Even having a player switch who hasn't been part of the national team set up for a while and only played sparingly in a friendly or two is acceptable. It is quite another to have a full national team starter switch within a month of him starting games for the team he is switching from. This is something Qatar would do. It is bush league. And I hope Germany and Joachim Löw don't cross that line.
i havent read the whole thread but ppl have been putting stock in Ives? really? the guy writes reactionary pieces. He doesnt break stories anymore. he just posted that fluff piece to get hits on the website his unpaid interns basically run
This story has nothing to do with Ives. He simply reported a rumor that came from twitter, specifically Grant Wahl and Tony Sanneh. Also Greg Seltzer commented on it.
Okay, okay, at what point do we say forget about the German experiment? We have surely come a long way from the Sampson days when we capped dual citizens simply because most of our USMNT players were college players-that has changed-hasn't it?
When the players that are eligible to play for the US with dual nationalities are not better than the top 30 or so players who hold only US citizenship. i.e. never Look at Italy, they were defending WC champs when they took Rossi.
Have to disagree. He came up in the German system. And if he makes the switch it is something he will have pushed for. Blame him if you want, but not Germany. For me, though, the question remains: is the quality of Chandler and the German fullback pool such that he has a significant chance of nailing down a starting national team position at some point between now and 2014. If not, then he likewise has no reasonable shot at ever starting for Germany (at Euro or WC), and thus would probably not give up what he has with the USMNT. Or at least that's my speculation. I know nothing about the German pool. What are his odds?
RB is at the moment surely the position one could most easily break into the German NT. The German NT has players that can play the position but it isn't their natural position and of those I would probably rate Boateng higher than Chandler though Löw said recently that he wants to play Boateng on his natural position as CB (like he is supposed to play at Bayern [famous Bayern bonus I guess ] this season) rather than RB similar situation with Höwedes who plays a great CB at Schalke but RB in the NT or Träsch (who looks like the frontrunner after the last few games) who plays RM for Wolfsburg. The options for a natural RB aren't that popular with Löw it seems there would be Castro from Leverkusen or Beck from Hoffenheim (maybe more but that are the two I could think of of the top of my head and both already played for Germany) if you go with the kicker rating this season so far they have like Chandler a 3 average they are both 3 years older (maybe less chance to improve) but have way more experience Chandler has 19 (1 goal, 3 assists) League games so far, Beck has 120 (1 goal, 14 assists), Castro has 176 (10 goals, 24 assists). One question I guess is does Chandler see himself as a RB? I think to remember reading somewhere that he sees himself as a RM. If that is true and he actually wants to play RM he will probably drop out of the German NT if he manages that because when he doesn't play RB at club level he loses the one advantage he maybe has above the other guys who can play that position but don't do it in their clubs and there is not a chance he breaks into the German NT as RM. I don't know about 2014 that's just too far away but I would say that if switches back to Germany and keeps playing as he has his chances making the NT for the 2012 EC are about 40%, chances starting for Germany maybe 20% (that is of course only my personal opinion). And that's the reason I doubt there is anything to that story. Maybe Chandler would like to play for Germany (hell which little kid growing up in Germany doesn’t dream of that?) but he seems to have made his choice and for Löw pushing it just to have one more alternative that isn't really looking that much better than the once he already has seems unlikely.
There's still no news in Germany regarding this rumour apart from the BILD print edition article. If he really was in the plans of the German National team, this would be huge news. So, the more realistic version is that Bild just didn't have anything better to write about Nürnberg.
It is amusing how Tim Chandler is played as a right back for Nuremburg yet Bigsoccer posters want to turn him into an attacking player, while Fabian Johnson is played as an attacking player for Hoffenheim yet Bigsoccer posters want to turn him into a left back.
It's one of the holy tenets of posting on BigSoccer: a player's natural position is anything but the position he is playing right now.
The BigSoccer philosophy: "Within two years, this somewhat promising seventeen-year-old will be America's first world-class player. As soon as he begins playing a brand-new position against high-level international opposition."
It isn't like there are dozens of reporters camped out in front of his home demanding an answer. Except for a small article somewhere in the sport pages of the BILD print edition (which probably started the whole rumor), some US soccer blogs and of course here there is no one talking about it, i guess there is a good possibility he has no idea anyone is talking about this.
This. I'd also add that unless they use social media as an outlet (and I've never seen any evidence that Chandler is on twitter), players don't really have many avenues to make statements to the public other than through interviews with journalists, which most often occur immediately after games since there is usually really good access to players in Germany. There is a good chance he'll talk to the local Nürnberg press following their game on Saturday - I'm sure they will want to ask him about playing under Klinsmann since it's their first home game since the international break. There is a decent chance one of them will ask about the BILD article (doubt they pay attention to Wahl or Sanneh's twitter accounts), so you might see something in the German media in the next week. But don't count on it.
Yeah Germany would be difficult to turn down, but he won't get playing time there. At least not for a few years. Lahm, Boateng... Too much established talent already. The US clearly has a hole at RB / LB...where he'd get slotted immediately. Hopefully he chooses where he'll play
I can say without a doubt that in all of this, THAT is the one thing that will absolutely happen. He'll will choose where he'll play. *cough*
Clearly not the Illuminati, I've got an inside tip that Chandler has hired Robert Langdon to his "professional staff."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ler.germany/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_wr_a4 Honigstein does his best to shoot down this particular rumor, while not altogether putting water on the flames of those who are worried about Chandler moving.