Oh.. Canada?

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by Jewelz510, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Enforce their rules and regulations maybe.

    Yes, I know funny right.

    I mean for every rule and regulation FIFA has in the books there is at least one league around the world that violates it or ignores it.

    Actually, FIFA may like that; it is something they can hold over a federation head when voting time comes around.

    Like a dude running for President of Concacaf could say hey Canada vote for me or I will deny the waiver that allows you to play in the USA.

    Just because something could happen, it does not mean that it would happen.
     
  2. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What rule or regulation are you talking about? I honestly can't imagine a rule on the books that would be so openly ignored by the Home Nations, the CFU, and North America, all at the same time
     
  3. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You kidding me?

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/club_licensing_v4_en_33721.pdf

    Page 19, 4.3.1.7

    Page 35 and 36. Legal criteria 9.1

    Page 38 is funny because I doubt that FIFA follows that ruling :D


    Multiple teams ownership is an issue in Mexico since the 2 TV stations own 2 teams each in 1st division and a few more in lower divisions.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...fa-ignore-enable-blatant-violations-in-mexico

    Also I do believe both MLS and FMF violate the free agency rule from FIFA.
     
  4. Sempuukyaku

    Sempuukyaku Member+

    Apr 30, 2002
    Seattle, WA
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOLZ :eek:
     
  5. INKRO

    INKRO Member+

    Jul 28, 2011
    Sadly, Canada needs to get it's soccer shit together before we can talk about significantly more Canadian teams.
     
  6. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Saying you're Canadian doesn't make your opinion become fact.

    As for Ottawa, Edmonton or Calgary, in all honesty, all three could hypothetically support teams if the product was presented correctly, like proper uniforms, supporter groups and above all else, soccer specific stadia.

    No, Vancouver would have no issues playing in Calgary or Edmonton.
     
  7. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
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  8. Cyclonis

    Cyclonis Forza Juve

    Jul 12, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I actually got carded for starting a thread similar to this in MLS expansion.. No More Canadaian Teams in MLS!!!

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  9. Prune

    Prune New Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Over Portland and Seattle? I don't think so. Maybe you should ask Caps fans and the front office about.
     
  10. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Who said over Portland and Seattle? It would be in addition to them.

    I don't know what you're trying to say here. The reason I said that was because you stated that MLS will be solely concentrating on US expansion from here on out and mentioned you were Canadian to validate that claim. You stated your opinion like it was based on actual fact when in reality you had nothing to back it up besides, of course, stating you are Canadian because in your mind that brought some sort of credibility to it. I did no such thing.

    I guess, what I'm trying to say is that mentioning you were Canadian in that post mean't nothing and only made you look foolish.
     
  11. RedRover

    RedRover BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    Let me just state, first of all, that I had put you on my ignore list a while ago because you neg repped me over a six month old post of mine, which I consider a dickhole move on your part. I just happened to click on the View Post option of your post just for shits and giggles. So I'm going to respond to you this one time, then it's back to ignoring your sorry side.

    Just take a look at the situation in MLS right now. Next year, you'll have 19 teams in a growing improving league where there are 16 U.S. based teams in 15 cities. The league has a raving hard on for a second New York side, the southeast is virtualy empty, the midwest is spotty, and MLS just signed a new television deal with NBC Comcast that will only help to gain more fans for the league. It doesn't take a rocket scientist, Canadian or otherwise, to figure out the direction the league is headed.

    From that, the idea that MLS can be supported by comparatively smallish sized cities like Ottawa - a poor sports market - Calgary and Edmonton - two cities barely over a million metro where NHL hockey and CFL football have a cultural vice grip on their populace and media - is nothing more than a delusional, drug addled wet dream on the part of Canadians like yourself.

    Be very, very thankful that we in Canada have three MLS teams. If we didn't have any right now, we might be hard pressed just to add one team the way the league is going.

    Now back to ignoring you, idiot.
     
  12. TFCMANU

    TFCMANU Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Parkdale/Newmarket
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The only cities that have any chance of having MLS franchises other than TFC, VWFC & IMPACT:

    Quebec City (Rivalry with IMPACT)
    Montreal (MLS)
    Ottawa (Owner with deep pockets who is willing to build stadium)
    Toronto (MLS)
    Hamilton (New stadium being built for Pan Am games)
    Edmonton (See FC Edmonton)
    Vancouver (MLS)
    Victoria (Rivalry with VWFC)

    I only see these cities as MLS possibility and I'm stretching it.
     
  13. TFCMANU

    TFCMANU Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Parkdale/Newmarket
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Well Said....Ottawa Maybe????
     
  14. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    British Columbia, Yukon, Nunavut, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, the Northwest Territories, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and Labrador.

    I am not some geography-challenged ignorant American.

    But in regards to 'Victoria' there is a 0.0% chance of a town getting an MLS franchise if someone like me, who rioted after his team won La Coupe Stanley, has never even heard of
     
  15. TFCMANU

    TFCMANU Member

    Apr 19, 2007
    Parkdale/Newmarket
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    As For Victoria Long shot just going with what I saw in the under 20 world cup...The only chance from the group would be Ottawa.
     
  16. Prune

    Prune New Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    No it would not be in addition to them. The posters I was responding to were talking about a Cdn league. I said Vancouver would rather stay in MLS and play Seattle and Portland than leave it and play only Cdn clubs.
     
  17. Cyclonis

    Cyclonis Forza Juve

    Jul 12, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    For every Canadian city that gets an MLS franchise, that is one less US city that could benefit from having those jobs and boost in the economy. Montreal is one too far IMO! Perhaps moving Toronto to Las Vegas might suffice to make up for it.
     
  18. Jewelz510

    Jewelz510 Member+

    Feb 19, 2011
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vegas sucks.

    It shouldn't be on the MLS radar. A soccer team playing in the summer in a desert city filled with tourists and transplants isn't gonna move the needle. The NBA is the only league I feel might have a chance at a successful team there, because of the "showtime" atmosphere it would bring with it. MLS doesn't have anything close to that in terms of having a "must-see, hottest ticket in town" vibe.
     
  19. Cyclonis

    Cyclonis Forza Juve

    Jul 12, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Vegas Sucks?? :confused:

    Well, it my not be as comfortable to you the Bay Area but I hardly think that anyone would rather spend time dodging the bullets between raiders and 49er fans than vacationing in some of the most luxurious hotels in the US and gambling.

    Hot desert city in the summer? Where have you been. There are already stadiums in the Middle East that are built with artificial atmospheres in them. As far as being the must see ticket in town.. From what I hear residents avoid the strip and the so-called hottest ticket in town and need other activities to take part in other than the reasons we might go to Vegas. Plus think of how cool it would be to enter into a stadium and have different screens playing MLS games across the country and being able to gamble on them! Of course you would know that I have already made this argument in MLS expansion if you really knew what was cracking.

    Would you be opposed to moving Toronto to San Fransisco then???
     
  20. Macksam

    Macksam Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Brampton, Canada
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I said those cities could hypothetically support MLS teams, as in, an argument can be made out of it you retard.
     
  21. Jewelz510

    Jewelz510 Member+

    Feb 19, 2011
    Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yea, Vegas sucks.

    It's a great city to visit. I was there a week ago. But when it comes to MLS expansion, I don't believe it should be high on the list, particularly when you've got bigger, proven sports markets available like San Diego and Phoenix. In fact, I'd rather see a team in Sacramento before Las Vegas. I just don't feel soccer can work in Vegas.

    And no, I wouldnt want Toronto moving here, as much as I'd love a team in San Francisco. There's already more than enough futility in Bay Area sports.
     
  22. SkyWarp redded

    SkyWarp redded Red Card

    Aug 8, 2008
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy

    Yeah, I think Toronto should stay where it is.. Montreal on the other hand. :rolleyes:

    I just watched Orlando win the USL Pro championship and thought, what a shame they will probably never get a franchise thanks to the Impact. Don't get me wrong, if there were more spots open, I'd have no problem with it, but if we are going to stop expansion at 20 teams for a few years at least, like I keep hearing, I'd prefer that Orlando got a team before any more Canadian franchises popped up.
     
  23. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why shouldn't Montreal be there? You've made the argument for Orlando in MLS, but haven't explained why "Montreal is keeping Orlando out"
     
  24. SkyWarp redded

    SkyWarp redded Red Card

    Aug 8, 2008
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    B/C everyone is saying that MLS is going to stop expanding after 20 teams, at least for a few years and I doubt, what with the new-born Cosmos making headlines in Paul Scholes testimonial that Orlando is going to just get handed the twentieth franchise.
     
  25. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think if you took a poll, most people would agree 24-30 more than stopping at just 20
     

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