Maicon Santos is Struggling

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by fingersave, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    How is that working out for NY?
     
  2. markspence02

    markspence02 New Member

    Aug 10, 2001
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think you can blame Henry for NY sucking.
     
  3. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    I can blame the strategy for sucking, can't I?
     
  4. markspence02

    markspence02 New Member

    Aug 10, 2001
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By all means
     
  5. TFC Ajax

    TFC Ajax Member+

    Mar 20, 2011
    Greater Toronto Area
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    As a TFC fan I've never liked Santos. he may score on average one goal every three games, but he kills the offence for the entire time leading up to his goal. when he just stands around in the offensive end waiting for a perfect pass, and when he gets it, he immediately blasts it in the direction of the net even if he's thirty yards away. playing with him is worse than playing with ten men. Mabey he'll turn out differently for FCD, but given that he had all the problems mentioned at the beginning of the thread when he was with TFC, and given his record of not fitting anywhere, I seriously doubt it. just hope that you can get something for him when the trade window opens

    Not trolling, just giving the truth about Maicon Santos
    I think this failure sums up his character very well:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouWBqXTE93M"]Maicon Santos Miss...Toronto FC v Chivas USA 1-1 - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Trust the butter leather. That's all you need to know.
     
  7. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    Here's the thing......we don't really need Santos to be that great. Without him we were one of the top teams in the league. If he just adds a little to the attack that will be great. TFC is in a MUCH different position.....so Santos faults are magnified.
     
  8. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I wondered if it was just unfamiliarity at first, but when those things started becoming a pattern, you could really see the black hole take shape.

    He regularly refuses to make the pass out wide to Chavez or Brek, but will take on 2 guys and lose posession instead. Stuff like that drives the offense into the dirt.
     
  9. gotyourback

    gotyourback Member

    Jul 18, 2002
    Aurora/Arlington
    You're right. There's no way the Leather can Butter this better. SH must go!
     
  10. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Let's start a thread!!!1111
     
  11. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anyone talk soccer in this forum or is it just sensitive teenagers who can't stomach criticism?
     
  12. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's see how he looks with a few weeks of practice with his new team. Supposedly they have had such game congestion they haven't practiced since he's been with the team. I have seen glimpses of a very good center forward that has speed, strength, the ability to hold and dish and a good left foot. I have also seen what you have. A month from now we will have a much better idea but also remember that we were all saying Villar was a bust earlier in the year but it took time for him to fit into the team. Hopefully Santos will start fitting in and be a force by playoff time.
     
  13. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    Seems like the last 3 pages were talking soccer mentioning how, in most people's opinions, Maicon Santos has done very well for FC Dallas so far.
     
  14. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have watched him at TFC and came away with the same impression of the player.

    I had chalked it up to the situation with a bad team, but apparently the player is what he is.
     
  15. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ok, we get it. You don't like Santos. Are you Schellas Hyndman? No. Am I? Nope, can't take a shot to the nuts and remain standing.

    So why don't we just wait and see instead of being all doom and gloom about our horrid forward who has only scored 2 goals in 5 games? Let's pretend like we're not going to crash out of the playoffs and be humiliated all because Maicon sucks.
     
  16. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, you see...things like this can disrupt the play of a team that is moving along without any issues.

    So its really an issue that could have an effect on the outcome of the team.

    If Chavez and Shea, who have been the driving forces of the team this season, are kept from having 3 or 4 offensive posessions a game because Santos wants to take on two players and sky the ball to the moon, it will absolutely change the dynamic of the team.

    As a single forward, Santos' role is to check back and combine, then to find space...or to make off the ball runs and expect delivery. Its not to receive the ball in transition 10 yards outside of the 18, hold the ball up while trying to get your body in position to take on 3 guys, and wait for the window of opportunity to exploit the awesome overlapping runs provided by Shea and Chavez (that have been the crux of the Dallas offense) to slam shut before you take on a guy and lose the ball...leaving your team shape out of whack.

    Look, I hope that Santos works out because I want FCD to succeed. The reason I pointed it out, is because Santos could be a reason why FCD falls short of their goals. I'm going to go ahead and predict that if Santos is playing in a major role on the team (a 90-minute guy), and that he doesn't learn to utilize the FCD wingers, that FCD will not make the title game again...maybe not even the semifinals.
     
  17. Streen

    Streen Member

    Mar 1, 2009
    East of Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's too bad we don't have a coach, to think about team dynamics and strategy, to train our players to work together and bring in players that could benefit the team on the field. Instead it's just the roaming idiots on the pitch, earning those goals against, earning those red cards, keeping us from winning finals and going far in cup competitions. Maybe we'd be the top three teams, if only we had a coach...

    Oh, wait.
     
  18. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Maicon Santos had coaches in the past, maybe he wouldn't still have these problems...

    Oh, wait.
     
  19. gotyourback

    gotyourback Member

    Jul 18, 2002
    Aurora/Arlington
    Well, there is the language barrier with SH and teammates that don't speak the language, and cannot possibly establish a deeper level of rapport with Santos that he lacked elsewhere...

    Wait, what am I talking about? I've never been a sensei, I don't have a degree in communications and psychology, but I'm fluent in Spanish, Portuguese, and I only save my finger for wagging at situations I've the least amount of control over.

    If there's anyone that can bring the best out of Santos, it's his current cast of supporters. Take your obsession elsewhere.
     
  20. Streen

    Streen Member

    Mar 1, 2009
    East of Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You missed the important part of my little joke, but that's not surprising considering the attention you're giving Santos.

    If I were obsessed with Santos, I'd put effort into researching his past coaches and compare them with his current one. But I'm not. I am, however, liking what Santos is doing, because he provides what we've been lacking in the position he fills. Is his play the best ever? No, but it's better than before. So it's enough for me to put my entire trust in SH, because I know that if Santos isn't doing his job, even if Dallas only had 11 men on the roster, SH would sit Santos. It's one of the blessings of SH upon us, he knows how to bring the best out of his players. Dallas isn't where it is because it was handed to them.

    So, fine, Santos isn't playing as good as you want him to play right now. But let's not act like we've lost the season because he's been on the field only a few times and he'll be starting next game.
     
  21. fingersave

    fingersave Member

    Sep 28, 2009
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You guys can have all the blind faith you want in your holy Schellas and sanctified Maicon Saint, but at some point your faith will have to be trans-substatiated into reality, and if not you'll have a crisis of faith.

    I'd much rater watch it play out with rational eyes and reserve my faith for players who have earned it.
     
  22. Streen

    Streen Member

    Mar 1, 2009
    East of Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's all you need to say. Your arguments are well-founded and true. I concede I'm wrong. My apologies.
     
  23. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    [​IMG]
     
  24. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. burning247

    burning247 Member+

    Liverpool FC
    England
    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That's impossible. Santos can't even put his shoes on the correct feet.
     

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