EM 2012/WM 2014 - How will our team look like?

Müller should definitely be part of the roster IMO he is a player who wants to win no matter what and he can motivate the team. He'd probably be a decent SS and he tends to have the right luck at the right moment.

For CB Hummels should be a given, probably Höwedes, Badstuber and Boateng too.

As things look now there's also no way past Özil and Götze, then there's the usual suspects like Kroos, Schweini and Lahm. Other than that we'll see but if Schürrle continues to impress like today he should be included even if it means moving Lahm back to the right again.

 

I think Schürrle should be a shoe in as well, he's versatile, works hard, has the right mentality and just compliments the team so well.

 

exactly what i feel, but everybody only took a shot on podolski, both need to step up indeed

 

Whereas form might be indicating otherwise, there is one clear point that differentiates Müller from Podolski. Müller has natural talent, plays with his head up has a high football IQ and IMO did an acceptable Job today. Spanish commentaors even thought he showed great pace and awareness.

Podolski is just slow. He has his good moments and a powerfull shot, but he always looks one step behind than the rest. His runs are not really great. Today many times counters were simply destroyed because he just headlessly ran forward or didnt make the run at all. Schürrle was a huge improvement. Besides age is not on his side. I think he is almost 27 now and has stagnated and even regressed as others have said.

 

To add to the above, You're still implying one hasn't shown up. Mueller's form is temporary, that's a fact. Podolski has been regressing for years, let's not be silly here. Podolski got every possible break and he still shows laziness, indecisiveness and pure stupidity. It was blatently obvious what he lacked when Schuerrle came in, and that's also when Mueller came to live.

 

Podolski has either really good games or really bad ones that's how I see him. Müller might not be that great atm but he delivers and doesn't slow the team down the way Podolski does. Podolski has his advantages too and he played a good WC but the current sheanigans at his club obviously dragged him down. Loew should let Schürrle start at the next game maybe the competition will bring Podolski back on track.

 

You can never compare them. No matter how "poor" Müller is in a game he almost always provides something important. He can be the type of player to be "absent" for 89 minutes and then get a later match winner or do something really special. Also, his sheer game intelligence and mentality is invaluable and thats why every coach adores him and rightfully so. Podolski has none of these attributes.

 

That roster is raw talent I'd love to see that. Although I don't know about Merte his games with the NT have never been very consistent, I'd prefer Friedrich actually should he regain his form he provides the experience such a young defence needs.

 

how about podolski?

 

lol, all right, Podolski really doesn't get much love at all in here, his performance recently certanly didn't help him at all though, he need to be really looked amazing just so everybody stop put a bullet on him.
Regarding Mueller, in game like yesterday with Goetze was played & Oezil unavailable, imo Mueller would performed better if he played as SS and Goetze as RW.

 

I think you're on to something here, Podolski never seems to have his best impact on the wing and is more of a SS. Podolski could link up much better as the LS in our 4231, because he isn't active enough for the wing. Ozil Muller and Gotze all deserve to start in the 3 attacking mid roles, with Schurrle also impressing as a LAM. I wouldn't mind seeing what Poldi could do up front, although I still feel Gomez is the CF for this team.

 

Neuer
lahm-badstuber-hummels-schmelzer/loewe/somebody from dortmund
schweini-khedira
goetze-oezil-mueller

and the striker position is where the lock-ins stop, the only problem with klose is his age
i think on another thread i saw people bring up the option of podolski up top, he has the ability to hold the ball if the situation arises
with gomez the situation is: if he's not gonna shoot it the moment he touches it well you better start defending early cause there's no way in hell he hangs on the ball. that being said, gomez CAN finish but podolski has finishing ability in addition to the ability to hold the ball up in the attacking third and allowing, what i think is the BEST midfield in the world and in the coming years might be one of the greatest midfields ever assembled at the national level, to work and christ with that passing display against brazil - i mean flawless i was absolutely speechless.
i know i maybe high on the game from yesterday but i mean it was against brazil and brazil looked like they were trying to win.

 

Neuer
(Wiese, Adler)
Höwedes - Hummels - Mertesacker - Lahm
(Lahm, Boateng) (Boateng, Höwedes, Badstuber) (Schmelzer)
Khedira - Schweinsteiger
(Kroos, Gundogan, Höwedes)
Müller - Özil - Götze
(Reus, Marin, Kroos) (Kroos, Götze, Müller, Marin) (Schürrle, Poldi, Kroos, Marin)
Klose
(Gomez, Schürrle, Poldi)​

Obviously goalkeepers may change on form, or if there's another crisis like with Enke/Adler. Götze and Müller can switch wings within the starting lineup, especially if Müller continues as an occasional backup to Ribery, while Götze plays on the right to accommodate Kagawa. Notably, Müller, Götze, Marin and Kroos all will generally be wide attacking midfielders but can be drafted in to provide cover for Özil if needed. Additionally, there's Reus, Schürrle and Poldi to provide more traditional width from the left and right of midfield. Yes, Höwedes isn't the ideal defensive midfielder (or right back, in some minds, though I thought he impressed in the Pokal-finalspiel, though that was against poor opposition) but I see him filling the Aogo role of the WM 2010. Additionally, Lahm could be called upon to play there, as he was in some recent game, I forget. I don't think Mertesacker is old enough to not be called for some while, and his partnership with Hummels could be a bit like Hummels/Subotic, where a more limited and forceful defender is paired with Hummels' technical skill. In addition, Mertesacker provides the leadership and experience that needs to be present in such a young side. Klose should still start, although that can change dependent on form as well, Löw should decide that relatively soon.

If we have a last minute injury crisis again like May 2010, there's Castro (plays on both sides of midfield and defense, knows Özil & co. from U21's), Benders, Ter Stegen, Holtby, Helmes, and others.

 

I agree with you on this accept that a Euro squad only takes 23 and not 24 players, so Marin has to go. Furthermore still have to see if Gundogan or Bender will be picked. I also believe that Jansen will still come back and have a good chance of making the squad again. If he does it will costs Schmelzer his spot.

 

Jansen is hardly considered, or used, as a LB anymore. Can't honestly see him return unless he has a major revival in form and HSV do well.

 

that is only 23 players:

1 Neuer
2 Höwedes
3 Schmelzer
4 Gundogan
5 Hummels
6 Khedira
7 Schweinsteiger
8 Özil
9 Schürrle
10 Poldi
11 Klose
12 Wiese
13 Müller
14 Badstuber
15 Götze
16 Lahm
17 Mertesacker
18 Kroos
19 Reus
20 Boateng
21 Marin
22 Adler
23 Gomez

I agree on the Jansen v. Schmelzer as well, though we haven't seen Jansen in the setup recently, although I seem to be in a minority in thinking that he is a very useful player for the team (left-footed, versatile, natural width).

I posited Gundogan based on his most recent inclusion, though I think that will have more to do with form over the next season and if he or either Bender gets a chance to start, what they do with it

 

Better central defenders than Mertesacker :
Wollscheid,Hummels,Boateng,Badstuber,Howedes and maybe even Friedrich.
Just stop mentioning Mertesacker! He is rubbish.

 

Agree about Wollscheid he has played a great season and looked solid against Lasogga, he's also tall and a good player to have in standards. And I would take Friedrich over Merte anyday.

 

I know there are legitimate complaints about Mertesacker's form/quality. But I do think that Löw will pick him as long as his form isn't completely rubbish because of his experience and faithfulness to Löw.

 

Yeah, but the same can be said about Friedrich. And he doesn't ******** up nearly as much as Merte, at least not during important games.

 

Loew might also pick one more defender someone like Traesch!

 

It's time for this:

------------------ Neuer
----- Boateng --- Hummels --- Lahm
-------------- Schweinsteiger
-------- Götze ---- Özil ----- Kroos
--- Müller -------- Klose ------- Schürrle

 

HAHAHAHA but yeahhhh we would loose something like 5-9