People in my section were confused as to why you left. They had no idea and thought you left because the team sucks. They made more noise than usual to compensate. That was about it. I'm in 131.
It was noticeable in my eyes guys. The only noise i heard at all was the groups of u12 girls teams screaming when they were on the jumbo-tron. A good applause on your exit too from us in the morgue. I also mentioned things to the people i was with about why it was going on throughout the nite and got some interesting looks from a few of the moms and dads with there kids. Best wierd look I got was when talking about the field being painted for the Rock to play some throwball on it.
Hmm. The FO cam in hard for something many people in the Fort knew nothing about with "security". Seemed like a civil response.
Arrrived at just before halftime due to real life obligations -- No mention on radio broadcast as we drove to game. By half, Fort section had butts in the seats, but it was (obviously) quiet. Noticed a few dozen "black shirts" still in the seats. IMHO, if you are that unimpressed with the overall product, you all need to just simply stay away. Don't waste time/energy marching out again. After all, if a tree falls in a forest does anyone hear it? Maybe the bear, taking care of business, but no one else. Similarly, if there is ZERO media coverage of the march out, then why march? If you think "Well, OK, the TV and radio crowd didn't hear about it, but dam* we sent a message to the stadium crowd!" -- i.e., if you think enough of the other fans in the stadium will notice and comprehend -- think again. Tonight's crowd was easily 60-70% "soccer smiles" crowd + mascots friends and families. They collectively wouldn't notice the next march; they definitely won't get it; and will at best be indifferent. Just sayin. Nothing left to see here. Stay gone, my friends. Anything else is lack of commitment.
I am very glad with today's stand and action. Needed. I am also ready to pick up supporting the team starting next home guys as we work out transparency with FO to at least make a game of it.
It's not difficult to objectively explain the situation, so given your exceptional level of judgement that's on you guy.
It's not about the product. It's due to security a couple of weeks ago. The product on the field is another matter.
The supporters' groups made it abundantly clear in the aftermath of "Fortgate" that it shouldn't be, or shouldn't have been, their responsibility to tell non-SG members in the Fort that the FO asked us all to not curse, even though it could have been stated without too much effort. So why is 7spencer7's situation different?
My reference to overall product was meant in broadest terms possible. You took my meaning as very narrow. "Overall product" includes quality on the field as well as quality of front office decisions and quality of stadium experience, including treatment of supporters by Team Ops. I will not be renewing next year due to all of the above. The rudder has been misplaced. I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, that some part of the current protest is driven by more than just the security issues. I am certain that if the Revs were kicking butt and racking up goals, there would have been far less interest in leaving the stadium, all other things being equal.
For me, it's about not having a bunch of overamped security guys feeling like they have the right to push people around;and it is a management issue. That required a response, cause these are their most dedicated supporters, there when it's raining on a weeknight in cold spring. The overall team is bad as well, but for that, i would just stop coming if I did not want to watch live soccer. The former is not related to how well the team is doing. Could happen if we were number one.
I've had season tickets since 2000, been in the Fort since 2003, and chose not to be a part of tonight's protest. I spoke with a few members of the Fort before and during the match and I appreciate the fact that not one protester gave me a hard time about my decision to skip the protest. They completely held to their word when they said the protest/walk-out was voluntary. And I must say, agree with it or not, it was executed brilliantly. The best part was during the silence when many of them loudly played a "cricket sounds" smartphone app.
More than half of the fort walked out tonight so it's obvious you can pass a message along to a significant portion of people. If you had initially passed along a message using the same channels used for the protest to quit swearing then perhaps the event you are protesting wouldn't have occurred. And it's not my responsibility to tell other fans that you're being petulant children because people told you to quit swearing and you didn't. I was a season ticket holder in the fort until this season and I left because I felt like I'd outgrown the immature chants and stupid drama involved with the supporters groups so it's not like I'm clueless.
And thousands (maybe tens of thousands) have been doing exactly that since the first 4-5 years of this team... recent actions will only accelerate that trend... and then the powers-that-be will simply blame it all on a "bad soccer market" when it was the best in the US at one point in time...
The supporters groups did the same exact thing for this and the YSA chant. The Revs FO should have also been proactive in the YSA chant. They were not at all.
I was sitting in 132, and like 7spencer7 said, a lot of confusion about what was happening. Most of the chatter was in the "why aren't they supporting the team?" vein. Some girl said something along the line of "they are protesting because they can't swear anymore." Also like 7spencer7, I didn't really care to explain because I think a.) YSA is stupid (I don't care about profanity, but at least be original/creative with it) and b.) it's not an effective protest if you are relying on individuals outside your organization to spread your message. That said, I don't want to come across like there aren't legitimate grievances regarding security/TeamOps and the front office being idiots, but I live 4 hours away and get to attend maybe 3 Revs games a year. If I'm gonna spend the money and the time and take the day off work, I don't want to spend it having someone else's debate.
You sound a little pissed off. A lot of people did not know about the non-swearing thing. It became bigger, but if you are management, put up a sign at least if you expect casual fans to stop doing something that has gone on for years. You mistreat a whole section of people, some in supporters group, then..
It was a joke. You don't have to like it. Besides, in a sad way, the Revs will have more of an effect on my life than the Nazi's did. The Nazi's may have shaped "how I got here," but to me, that's irrelevant. All that matters to me is what happens during my life (however I certainly hope to have a positive effect on earth for those that come after me). The only real effect the Nazi's have now is what/how we can learn from their history. Except, humanity doesn't have a great track record on learning from our predecessors mistakes. In fact, if there's anything we can learn from history, it's that humans can't learn from history. So unfortunately, the influence of the Nazis is rapidly approching irrelevancy, and will continue to do so as the events of 1930-1945 become distant history. To those of the future, "the death of millions is a statistic."