boys vs girls

Discussion in 'Coach' started by joshred17, Jun 24, 2011.

  1. joshred17

    joshred17 Member

    Jan 2, 2011
    do any other coachs have the problem of refs not calling fouls the boys way. my team is not big in size and we didnt have 1 foul our way. they hacked pushed tripped everything. this is u14 club soccer i beleive girls shouldnt play they have a girls league.and could a boy play on a girls team?
     
  2. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Cry me a river.

    Stop with the stupid argument 'can a boy play on a girls team.' If the girl can ball, let her run with the boys.

    Your problem will go away next year. The girls hit their growth spurt at U-12. Boys just start growing at U-14. They will catch up physically to the girls in the next year.
     
  3. joshred17

    joshred17 Member

    Jan 2, 2011
    but the thing is they had no skiill just pushingg we ended winning 1 nil but we should have had 2 pks
     
  4. ranova

    ranova Member

    Aug 30, 2006
    Nope. If you have a question about coaching, I would be happy to discuss it.

    For what its worth I have played in an open league for 20 years. Open means open to any adult, but the vast majority of players are men. The few women that have played with us over the years were former college and national team players. It is a privilege to play with them.
     
  5. briansnat

    briansnat Member

    Jun 18, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Where do you live where U14 club soccer is still coed? Maybe in 1977 or in the nether regions of Alaska or North Dakota. Just wondering.
     
  6. ranova

    ranova Member

    Aug 30, 2006
    He didn't say it was coed. He implied that one or more girls were being allowed to play "up" on boys teams. Some of our WNT players were developed that way, e.g., Mia Hamm. I haven't coached youth since the early 90's. If girls are no longer allowed to play "up" on boys teams that may explain our current WNT's situation. If you hadn't noticed, the team is relatively old and no longer contains the world's best players.
     
  7. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Abby Wambach played in the boys divisions growing up in Rochester. Nothing wrong with girls playing against boys up to about age 13 or 14. If they are athletically driven, they will likely be bigger, faster & stronger than the average boy until that age as they will hit puberty and growth spurt earlier than the boy.

    Beyond that, it will take a special player to play in a boys division.
     
  8. joshred17

    joshred17 Member

    Jan 2, 2011
    i am in northern illinois here they are one team in the division, actually two one chicago magic. but i dont get how they can play with my teams division.
     
  9. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    They register to play in a boys division. Done.
     
  10. Lower90

    Lower90 Member

    Aug 26, 2009
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    To answer your question yes I have been involved in games where I thought a girl was given preferential treatment. I also have been in games where certain players regardless of gender were treated differently (smaller, wider, etc.) Heck I have been in homer games where our whole team was treated different. I just coach and let the refs ref and live with it. Way more often than not the refs do great.

    The boy girl thing. It does not bother me really. It does take the boys a few minutes to play normally especially the first time it happens. Most of us were trained as kids not to be rough with girls so it does take a few minutes to adjust. But life is about adjustments.
     
  11. Mimir19

    Mimir19 Member

    Jan 28, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    I personally have a different problem with the girl's game.. I find that the refs seem to be protecting the girls a lot more, in the types of fouls they call.. I had never seen a ref blow the game because a player got hit in the chest with a ball until the girls games (The girl never even fell to the ground and she didn't know why he stopped play in the case I am thinking of).. As someone who has coached women and girls sides, I prefer a ref who "lets them play like the boys.."
     
  12. rca2

    rca2 Member+

    Nov 25, 2005
    This problem is not going to go away for you. Good refs intentionally call women's matches differently than men's matches. Just like they handle youth differently than adult, premier than recreational. For women compared to men, they will allow more contact below the waist, but less contact above the waist.

    It is a rather minor problem. You are the ref for your training sessions. I coached girls too. As a male coach, I preferred not to think of getting them to play like boys. It is not a problem you have, but I had to keep myself thinking of them as players rather than girls so I wouldn't lower my expectations. So much of the coaching problems I faced involved social expectations for women carried over from other activities. I had to adjust my own thinking as well as theirs for the sports environment.

    But the refs are not adjusting their calls because of social expections carried over from other activities, but rather adjusting their calls for the players expectations on the field. Women will not tolerate the amount of upper body contact men will. Men will not tolerate the amount of lower body contact women will. This is a generalization of course, but that is the rationale.
     

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