Does Bob Bradley deserve to remain manager?

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by keller4president, Jun 26, 2011.

  1. slazzle7

    slazzle7 New Member

    Jan 20, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    i dont want to know how to spell his name. i dont think he even deserves that from me. Both goals were conceded at his expense. Yes, you will say Mexico had to move through our forward, midfielders etc. but the bottom lin is he is a DEFENDER and playing defense is not something he is good at or has ever been good at. Timmy Chandler would have been the correct selection but he was given a rest from club & country which is well deserved.
     
  2. PALE568

    PALE568 Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    mind your own.
    It doesn't bear the 'slighest resemblance'? If you say so.

    People are upset that the team is under-performing. They're making their voices heard through communication to the media, directly to the USSF, and on the most popular and influential soccer message board in the US, aka BigSoccer. None of that is "thrashing" about and none of that is a waste of time because the USSF has provided "zero evidence" that they intend to make a move against Bradley. US Soccer fans can change the climate.
    The USSF, like most sports organizations, is susceptible to public pressure.
     
  3. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sunil has no clue so this would be enough but in a mino soccer nation like the US getting to the Gold Cup final is good enough.
     
  4. Flagreekguy

    Flagreekguy New Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    I couldn't disagree more. anyone that knows the area of CONCACAF is going to have the mentality of the CONCACAF which is "It would be awesome if we made it to the Gold Cup Final" or "It would be great if we made it to the final 16 in the world cup"

    Underwhelming mindset to say the least. We need a strong European coach or a strong south american coach.
     
  5. Albirrojo

    Albirrojo Member

    Aug 27, 2004
    Van Baaken or however it is who managed Trinidad got them to the World Cup, he went on to manage Poland, mixed results....

    And Marco Van Basten when I said the Dutch, I'm lukewarm on him, he might be okay but I think one of these Journeyman Mercenary Coaches might do the trick, that's what Bora was and that, imo is still a good World Cup but I voted giving BB the benefit of the doubt all the same. We'll see but one of these types, Dutch or even others might be able to do the trick.
     
  6. ChapacoSoccer

    ChapacoSoccer Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    If Bielsa was the replacement, would people be all for firing Bradley? I'm on the fence becuase I don't trust Sunil. But if I knew Bielsa was coming in I'd be all for it.
     
  7. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bielsa would radically want to change things in US Soccer. The same thing Klingsmann wanted. Bielsa is a much better coach than Klingsman but is not a name most American soccer fans know.

    If Klingsman Gulatti's choice could not change US Soccer landscape. I doubt Bielsa would either.

    Bielsa likes having a say in all levels of the national team, and likes having the youth coaches follow his structure. Again the US is not willing to invest on this change.
     
  8. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Jonny is the latest punching bag, and he deserves some of the blame, but Howard, Jones, Bradley, Goodson, Bocanegra, and Lichaj also made blunders and got beat which contributed to the loss. The Mexican attack was just overwhelming and there's a lot of blame to go around.
     
  9. Adiaga Two

    Adiaga Two Member+

    Oct 4, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would.

    Bielsa is the real deal and we should be lucky that one of the more talented coaches working today would even hold talks with us (if that actually happened).

    However, I imagine he would find implementing his offense with the technical ability of our players pretty frustrating.
     
  10. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How long til we hear something from Sunil??:mad:
     
  11. Flagreekguy

    Flagreekguy New Member

    Aug 13, 2007

    I like the idea of a dutch coach. I personally think our starting 11 dragged BB kicking and scratching into the quarterfinals of the world cup. I think bradley had little to no affect of the performances in the world cup with the exception of picking the obvious roster.

    Ugh, now i'm selling myself again on why he should be terminated.

    Wheres Brian Clough when you need him.
     
  12. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Didn't Bielsa coach Chile's youth team in the Toulan tournament a couple of years ago?
     
  13. Adiaga Two

    Adiaga Two Member+

    Oct 4, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if he took on an extra workload like that. The dude's obsessed with the game.

    They call him "Loco" for a reason.
     
  14. ChapacoSoccer

    ChapacoSoccer Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    this is the big advantage for me, he would leave no doubt about what youth coaches deserve their jobs and who doesn't.
     
  15. XaviusX

    XaviusX Member

    Mar 21, 2001
    Tampa, Florida
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has Bob been fired yet?!?!?......JEEZ! What is taking so long?!?!? ;)
     
  16. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No he doesn't deserve "blame". Bradley deserves the blame. Bornstein was just a glaring example of why.
     
  17. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Actually, pulling a guy like Donovan back would help greatly in plugging holes, preventing the through ball, double-teaming and shoring up our speed deficit. And still play to Donovan's strength -- catching you on the break.

    Pushing Donovan up high has never worked great for Bob, because we lose his defense and his best weapon. And he seems to get disconnected from the game.

    Bunkering at 2-0 would also play the psychological card that has always worked so well for us against Mexico: "Here we go again, we are fated to lose to a lesser team." Instead, we lost that card this tournament, as the US seemed to have absorbed the idea that WE were the top team and should try to play an aggressive, end-to-end run and gun game against one of the best, runniest gunniest Mexico teams I can remember. It's like Dempsey was coaching.

    And c'mon. We were up 2-0. I can only think of a small handful of teams who wouldn't sit back and laugh and counter in their regional final.

    Nobody's gonna give Bob Bradley credit for this, but part of the reason we lost - I mean besides being inferior - is he has been evolving our style of play. Remember when many thought we'd take Brian Ching AND Conor Casey to the World Cup -- because we couldn't play without a McBride type? Now he's trying to move toward greater possession. And he has been developing various approaches/formations. And he has been trying to develop talent. All while trying to win the Gold Cup.

    So he had to make decisions, some involving risks. Most panned out well, some gloriously, and a couple were a bust. But did it seem like he really wanted to play Bornstein instead of his best player of the tourney, Steve Cherundolo? And who would you say was a crazier Bob pick one month ago - Bornstein or Freddy Adu? At the end of the day, Mexico's in-form squad was better than anything we could produce, and we lost. Were we competitive? Did Bob put us in a position to advance to the Confed Cup? Hell yeah, we made it to the final and were 2-0 up, hit the bar and blew chances. Without Cherundolo (and a third sub.) Without Holden, Altidore, Benny...

    Bob is more experimental than people give him credit, and he has a slow and steady plan for raising our game the best he can with what's available to him. I think Bob is a great option for coach, especially if there's somebody above him (Technical Director or whatever) overhauling and inspiring the pipeline to the Nats.

    Yes, I'm ready for a fresh perspective. But unless you can guarantee there is a transformational genius who wants the US head coaching job, I will understand why Bob keeps it.
     
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  18. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Note to Webster's dictionary... "tactics" is now defined as horrific finishing and facing a goalkeeper who made some great saves.
    Certainly part of the problem against Panama, but nowhere near the issue with Guadeloupe.
     
  19. The_Dude

    The_Dude Member+

    Aug 21, 2004
    Wait. So, since one person misspelled his name he can't possibly be a problem for the team?

    Or are you implying that Borensteen isn't an "important" problem.

    Use your words.
     
  20. Borrachin

    Borrachin Member+

    Feb 28, 2006
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree! I don't understand why everybody is upset at Bornstein. Did he join the team on his own, nope! Did he sub himself in a game after not participating a single minute in the tournament, nope! So why blame the guy that has no control. I actually feel sorry for him, he should have never been in the team to begin with. Chandler should have been called in, wheter he rejects the call is up to him, but his speed and passing would have helped. Also, Spector could have played that position, was he even available as a sub?
     
  21. The_Dude

    The_Dude Member+

    Aug 21, 2004
    Great post. "It's like Dempsey was coaching." lmao.

    I don't want to see Bradley anymore, but I am also resigned to the fact that there is little if any chance that Sunil let's him go. Like I posted earlier, there are signs that you have also pointed to the Bob is evolving as a coach. The XI against Mexico was probably what 95-100% of the posters on this board would have liked to see. He was less than average after that, but perhaps he is learning.
     
  22. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Plaschke in the LA Times said that most federations would fire their coach after this but in the US, we're used to low expectations.
     
  23. shooter6065

    shooter6065 Member

    Nov 16, 2000
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Maybe, but what does Plaschke know about soccer? Nothing.
     
  24. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Bring back Bora!! I'm only half-kidding, but I guarantee you the USA wins that game 1-0 over Mexico if Bora was the coach.
     
  25. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    He went to the game.

    Plus, it's not like Galarcep or Wahl know much about it either.
     

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