Bob Bradley may or may not need to go but we should NOT replace him with one of the most experienced managers in the world. MLS is strewn with the wreckage of managers (Hans Backe may be added to the list soon if this June slump continues) from overseas who might be able to get results out of our top six or seven players and then realizes that the US soccer product has not developed enough to suit their style. I agree with others when we need a top-down revamp, and something needs to be done about collegiate soccer that doesn't eliminate it but makes it more productive for producing national-team worthy players. Klinsman coming in is not the answer; I don't claim to know who it is (I hear Carlo Ancelotti will be free next year), but it isn't Juergenn.
People were talking about Lawrie Sanchez, Fulham. Case in point is Roy Hodgson, did well at Fulham, I was never for him taking on the "big club" of Liverpool from which he parted ways, he goes to West Brom and they do really stellar with him, they were even unbeaten for about 6 weeks when he came aboard whereas before, they were nosediving into the drop zone. Managing is just so often inconsistent, the Roy example too, shows the RIGHT FIT is often important too, Roy has been good for small clubs. Also, yes, maybe Bradley should be sacked but who comes in? It's really difficult. Bring back the Bruce? I know people would scoff at that but talking about managers also always brings out the most cynical attitudes and replies. The whole scenario needs to be looked at and as said, 2 years ago with Sven Goran Erikkson, I don't remember it totally but Mexico was certainly having a hard time of it themselves, maybe getting draws with people they should defeat but losing to the USA miserably as at that game at Columbus. I remember one year in the PL, about a 3rd of the managers got sacked, that was a very hard year for the gaffers but it still happens relatively frequently and this past year, it's rather clear Allardyce and Houghton should not have been let go at least in mine and the opinion of many.
Perhaps, us bradley haters, just had the foresight to know what was to come. The cracks were all there.
Man, I gotta say people thinking that we shouldn't have bunkered after being up 2-0 are absolutely CRAZY. Both Honduras and Guatemala did this to great effect because this Mexican team isn't a possession team. I still can't get over us playing a high line so they could run behind our guys all day. Just idiotic.
So, the people have spoken. And ********ing resoundingly at that. Now - has anyone in the media called for Bob to resign yet?
I got to give you credit, Mr Tottenham, your still putting up the good fight for Bradley... where it looks like your boys, Mr.Martin, deuteronomy, tablalas, tehgeo et al have been absent.
+1 Yes, and especially if an Italian is brought in, especially Lippi or Ancelotti, USA would be super defensive, catenaccio or some modern variety, maybe it would be called boring by many, the fan is difficult to please. We live and we learn, you bring up a good point.
Well, yeah, the stories per a google news search are plentiful from the media though we aren't talking about the NY Times, the stories are out there.
I favor a National Team Coach Term limit of one World Cup cycle, I always have. It is hard to tell if our lack of depth in the Gold Cup final is a result of lack of new talent, or just conservatism that occurs with an incumbent, otherwise know at the "Devil You Know" Syndrome. We need a coach with a clean slate.
In the eyes of the USSF Bob Bradley probably had to make the final in order to retain his job. He did so. I can't see Sunil firing him. Sunil will harken back to the 09 Confederations Cup and the 10 World Cup as reasons for not doing so. I don't know why people are calling out the media for not being more harsh in their criticism of Bradley. A) What media? Not the mainstream ESPN media. They don't care enough. Maybe we'll hear from Alexi Lalas and Eric Wynalda............but they'll be measured in their criticism. And the USSF isn't going to fire their coach because Alexi Lalas thinks they should. B) Nobody at the USSF cares about the Jamie Trecker's and Paul Gardner's (or other bloggers/columnists) of the world. They've been staunchly USSF (even anti-Bradley) for a long time, and that never leads to anything. I'm not saying we shouldn't fire Bradley. I'm just saying I see zero evidence that the USSF is going to. Absolutely zero. So all of this thrashing about here is a complete waste of emotional energy. And for the love of god can people stop mentioning Jurgen Klinsmann? There's a reason he's unemployed, and has been so for a while. No club teams or national teams seem interested, and yet he's the guy people keep mentioning as an upgrade to Bradley. There must be 500 better options than Jurgen Klinsmann. What the US needs is an X's and O's guy, and that's the one thing Klinsmann isn't. When Jurgen was with Germany he was more of a cheerleader/motivator.......Low was the tactician. Bielsa? Absolutely.
I was here from the fall of '06 to fall of '10 when he was hired, then I waived the white flag and gave up when the fed doubled down on a moronic initial decision four years earlier. There is no safety in numbers anyway, just quality arguments with evidenciary support.
Bielsa would be the first name on my list moving forward, and Chicago House apparently contacted him for a technical position. Bielsa turned down an offer from Sevilla recently. The timing appears to be perfect.
Damnit.... the moment i think there needs to be a change I think of the same thing. Look, Bob should have changed our formation after we were up against Mexico (I get it) But his risky moves with Adu and Donovan. I think his decision making with putting donovan back up top and putting dempsey behind him was poor. But it was a risk and I like seeing him being unconventional. If they fire him i'll understand. If they don't, if i see he's still being risky, i'd be okay with that as well.
No one is thrashing; stop projecting. And your argument, which essentially boils down to "our chances of success are slim, so....no bother trying!", is silly - and that's putting it charitably.
If there's a Dutchman in the house, they have a real good record 'should we' need a new coach and I'm not thinking Van Basten either, MVB has been so-so imho.
Not quite as "silly" as your pretending that what you said he said bears the slightest resemblance to what he did say. But hey, why resort to logic and reason when you can make stuff up?
I agree that we need a strong tactician, but also a good motivator. Our team has not looked motivated for a long time, and I think that it reflects Bradley's demeanor and coaching style. Still, I would rather have a strong tactician and that is not Klinsmann. So many people seem to think that there is no room for coaching and development at this level; that the coaches job is just to make roster selections and plan substitutes. The reality is that the best coaches are able to break down film and understand what the opposing coaches tactical patterns are and how to exploit them. Bob has not, and apparently cannot do that at this level. According to player interviews, Bob has not given Jones or Bradley any tactical instruction, but rather lets them figure out who is getting forward and when. That is worrisome. Our players need to be shown fundamental things like: - how to move effectively on offense, in transition, and defensively - how to space themselves - who is responsible for covering holes in support of a teammates movement - making runs that will effectively exploit weaknesses All of these things will change game-to-game depending on the opposition, and even during a game based on the opposition's adjustments and substitutions. I have never seen anything to suggest that Bob is capable of anything but the simplest of game plans. His in-game adjustments seem limited to switching midfielders from side to side.
TWO WORDS: JONATHAN BORENSTIEN Bob Bradley should be sacked on that selection alone. as soon as i saw him come on i said to my buddies "well, there goes our 2-0 lead and the trophy"
Because it's just that simple. You just flip a "bunker switch" in the technical area and microchips in the players' brain stems tell them to defend. Like bunkering (which I thought everybody hated about Bob) would've prevented Bornstein from clearing the ball directly into the box.
You'd think if one player was such an important problem plaguing the team so obviously, people would know how to spell his name.
As soon as I saw Dos Santos run at him I knew Mexico was gonna score. Bornstein is indeed the Weakest Link.
We need more "American"mentality (winning) & no more loser mentality cheapo coach. Also, we need major changes in USSF. Two failure...the World Cup & Gold Cup
Of course it's not simple. That's why we want to hire someone better at preparing the team to do that