Borestein made Gio look like Ronaldinho

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Aduesque, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. Brandinho

    Brandinho Member

    None
    United States
    Feb 22, 2007
    New Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You do know Gio was at Barca in 07-08, and was bounced after one, not-so-good season right?
     
  2. He just had a great season with Racing in La Liga, though.
     
  3. jcrocker

    jcrocker Member

    Jun 1, 1999
    Springboro, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am not sure who deserves more blame: Bornstein for constantly being out of position or Bradley for deciding to bring on Bornstein and reshuffling our back line.

    That substitution was the difference. If Cherundolo didn't want to come out either... It's an egregious error.
     
  4. LiverAndPineapple

    May 7, 2008
    On the bright side of things, Bornstein will never see the field in a meaningful match for the United States ever again.
     
  5. ChocolateCandy

    ChocolateCandy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jul 23, 2009
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don't be so sure.
     
  6. Barcasox

    Barcasox Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bob is and always has been a terrible talent evaluator- the one thing you need in a national team coach.

    Everyone saw he was not international quality, PLUS he aint playing WHY call this guy up?
     
  7. LiverAndPineapple

    May 7, 2008
    Bob remains the manager, not even he is that dense.
    Bob is fired as manager, and it's not even close.

    He is in purgatory now, and will never come back. This game was a positive for two reasons. We found our Freddy. And we got rid of Bornstein once and for all.
     
  8. TKFJ_RBNY

    TKFJ_RBNY Member

    May 2, 2009
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    BB loves Bornstein and Sacha, his Chivas friends.

    Neither are quality enough for this NT until they prove so.
     
  9. siva66

    siva66 Member+

    Apr 7, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You have no idea what you are talking about.


     
  10. Cleats Up

    Cleats Up Member

    Jun 25, 2010
    Saint Louis
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Loosing dolo was a killer. Bornstein is still terrible. He can't judge a header, it's awkward to watch. It's like a fakeout every time the ball is in the air to him.

    Yes, Mexico was clearly the better team, but a 2 goal lead needs to be better protected.
     
  11. SoccerBiz

    SoccerBiz Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't believe anybody is defending Bornstein... he came on and, realistically, could be mostly blamed for the first two goals. Mexico before those goals looked defeated. They were tired, heads hanging, demoralized etc. They get that first goal that was 100% Bornstein's fault and they got a little boost. They get the second goal, 80% Bornstein's fault, and they knew they were on their way to winning the game.

    Sure, he wasn't responsible for all 4 goals but he was mostly responsible for the 2 biggest goals. The goals that decided the game. Not to mention, his entrance into the game pushed Eric out of the position he became most comfortable with during the tournament and, subsequently, he really struggled.
     
  12. CFCkm7

    CFCkm7 New Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a good question. Bornstein has proven time and time again that he is not of a high enough quality for this level. Bradley has to know this, but put him in anyway. And what happened? Bornstein was at fault for at least two goals and arguably three. And why did this happen? Because he was CONSTANTLY out of position and Mexico exploited the space behind him. Almost every time our back line had the ball, Bornstein was practically off the screen running forward. Every play he just pushed forward leaving our slow backline exposed in 3 v 2 situations when we turned over the ball. The only logical reason for Bornstein to come on was for his pace. So surely Bob must have told him, "look I'm bringing you on because our backline is slow and you are fast. Just stay home and help track their fast forwards." That is all we needed. Instead Bornstein just ran forward every play pretending to be Ashley Cole and it cost us. We were up 2-0, we didn't need him flying forward trying to support the attack, especially when nobody was giving him the ball anyway because they don't trust him.

    Where I blame Bradley, besides for putting him in obviously, is for not ripping Bornstein at halftime and telling him to do nothing but stay home. The whole second half Bornstein did the exact same thing as he did in the first, and it kept pulling the backline out of shape. Poor Bocanegra had to constantly slide out of position to fill the gap or was left exposed to be taken on at speed by Mexican forwards who he is too slow to deal with. It was a nightmare to watch.
     
  13. Barcasox

    Barcasox Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    bingo bingo bingo

    I was yelling all these things at the tv
     
  14. gideon02

    gideon02 Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    texas
    LOL

    u mad bro?
     
  15. Poet

    Poet Member+

    Mar 13, 2001
    Toledo, Ohio
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the whole Bornstien to Tigres thing was a cunning Mexican conspiracy. They played to BB's weakness, bring his Chivas USA pet to Mexico, further validate JB with Bob and shazam- the Mexicans virtually play with a man up in the GC final. JB back to MLS at years end, probably to that shithole that is Toronto.
     
  16. Midfield General

    Jun 14, 2011
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really.
     
  17. CFCkm7

    CFCkm7 New Member

    Sep 26, 2005
    New Jersey
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also, if you want to ask the question of, "Well who could Bradley have put in?", the answer is simple: Anyone.

    I honestly believe anyone on the squad could have been put at left back and done a better job than Bornstein today if they played smart. And by smart I mean stay connected with the backline and not run out of position every play. The reason Bornstein looked so bad was because the Mexicans kept putting the ball in the space he left behind on his idiotic adventures forward. I don't think he was ever beat by a Mexican running at him and just toasting him. As long as there was a warm body where he should have been, it would have given the backline a better chance.
     
  18. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The reason Bornstein looked so bad is because he is garbage.
     
  19. camasterton

    camasterton Member

    Jun 26, 2001
    North Carolina
    Spector to FB, Ream or Edu to center and Bocanrgra to left FB. No other option should have been considered, period. The moment I saw that ass of a FB at midfield, even up two-nil, I knew it was over. If Bornstein is ever seen in a USMNT camp (even as a reporter!), the coach of that camp should be fired on the spot. Speaking of "reporters" none that cover the USMNT have balls, none! Shut up with your blather Chistopher-Eric. Call a spade a spade or you are useless.
     
  20. LiverAndPineapple

    May 7, 2008
    Am I the only one that thinks that Bob panicked when he was told Dolo had to come out, and didn't figure out that he could have thrown Mo Edu out there instead?
     
  21. Barcasox

    Barcasox Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This i have been saying for years
     
  22. Brandinho

    Brandinho Member

    None
    United States
    Feb 22, 2007
    New Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From Bornstein's Wikipedia page:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Bornstein#International_Career

    Heh, I lulz'd
     
  23. Barcasox

    Barcasox Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Club:
    Athletic Club Bilbao
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love this. Laughing only makes it slightly better
     
  24. cantona94

    cantona94 Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha I texted my buddy the exact same thing! I said...Bornstein's been subbed in (bc he was with his gf and couldn't watch the game), prepare for MX to go ahead and win this now.
     
  25. cantona94

    cantona94 Member

    Jul 16, 2000
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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