Adu on the Bench vs Jamaica

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  1. SamsArmySam

    SamsArmySam Member+

    Apr 13, 2001
    Minneapolis, MN
    Realize it's mere hours before gametime, but something I haven't seen discussed in much detail elsewhere is that Adu was on the bench for Jamaica. Bench tally was:

    Subs used
    Agudelo, Donovan, Edu

    Subs not used
    Adu, Bornstein, Ream, Hahnemann

    Not on bench
    Wondolowski, Rogers, Spector, Gooch, Rimando

    I'm particularly intrigued that Adu was there over Wondolowski. Wondo went 64min against Guadeloupe, so presumably he could've been a viable forward sub barring any unknown injury.

    Was Adu in there because we were 4231 and Adu was Kljestan's understudy? I don't think you take players in a knockout game unless you see a role for them, so this is my best guess what Bob was thinking.

    If we go 4231 tonight with SK starting, do we see Adu again on the bench?

    And to take things one step further, given SK's 90min performance only 3 days ago, do we see Adu enter somewhere 60-70min tonight?

    There are other permutations that keep Adu on the bench -- such as Bedoya coming in wide and pushing either Donovan or Dempsey to the CAM role -- but it strikes me as possible that we see Adu. Particularly if we are a couple goals ahead at that point in the game.

    Curious to hear others' opinions on this.
     
  2. greekchampion04

    greekchampion04 Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    id like to see what he has to offer... hes got to be damn hungry to get out there and prove himself.

    but at this point, its going to have to be only if we are up multiple goals with 20-30 minutes left.
     
  3. brazrazra

    brazrazra Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Also look Gooch was not an available sub. Has his play sent him from starting lineup down to not available or is he hurt?

    I don't imagine Bradely would start him and then scratch him in a matter of 4 tournament games after all this time of him being in the starting lineup and not being particularly old.
     
  4. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that Adu would only have played Sunday if we had been up by 2 or more and Bob decided not to play LD at all.

    I don't expect to see Adu in uniform tonight.
     
  5. ctoa23

    ctoa23 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    E&G Forum
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With Jozy hurt, Wondo will probably take Adu's spot on the bench tonight.
     
  6. AEK21

    AEK21 Member

    Jul 23, 2009
    Wouldn't Wondo take Agudelo's spot on the bench with Agudelo slotting into the XI? i.e. This won't knock Adu out?
     
  7. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, you mean Wondo will take Jozy's spot on the bench.
     
  8. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    I agree with your analysis of Adu being on the bench for Jamaica, and I don't see why Bradley would change anything other than having Wondolowski for Altidore.

    Unless he decides to put Spector in the 18, Adu should make it again.
     
  9. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agree, Wondo is most likely on the bench tonight, but we might see Adu as well as opposed to Bornstein. I bet the bench is Jones (to save from yellow card jeopardy), Sacha, Spector, MH, Ream, Wondo, and Adu. Starters are Agudelo, LD, Demps, Bedoya, Edu, MB, Lichaj, Boca, Goodson, and Cherundolo.

    Subs, if up one, will be Sacha, then Spector, then Wondo in the 85th.

    Subs if down one or tied, will be Sacha, if still tied, Adu and then Wondo.
     
  10. ctoa23

    ctoa23 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 25, 2007
    E&G Forum
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, my fault. Going over it again, here were the subs against Jamaica: Donovan, Edu, Agudelo, Adu, Bornstein, Ream, Hahnemann.

    Jozy's gone, so that frees up one sub slot. Wondo goes there.
    Edu will either be on the bench or start. If he starts JJ is on the bench.
    Hahnemann is the third lock for a bench spot.

    That leaves four open spots for the following players (most likely): Bedoya, Rogers, Adu, Bornstein, Spector, Onyewu, and Ream.

    My guess: Bedoya, Adu, Ream, and Spector make it.
     
  11. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty big fall for Gooch though. He's a shadow of his former self. Really sad. Can't see him getting called up in future in this state of his affairs. BB will need to start looking elsewhere for depth.
     
  12. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a good thing.
     
  13. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    It seems likely that Donovan will return to the starting lineup, which means that one of Bedoya/Sacha goes to the bench. That player is probably the first one off the bench. The second one is probably Edu. The third is less clear and obviously dependent on the game situation. Could be Freddie. Could be Wondo, who I think is likely to make the gameday 18.
     
  14. YankatOxford

    YankatOxford Member+

    Oct 15, 2007
    Agreed. Perhaps it will take him a full two years to fully recover from the injury? Or maybe he doesn't recover. I was extremely concerned when he down at RFK in the Costa Rica game- more crushed then the news about Davies to be frank.

    I would echo Sam's analysis of Adu on the bench for Jamaica and agree that its not likely he plays a huge role tonight, even if he is named in the 18.
     
  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    IMO there is a small chance that we'll see Adu again on the bench.

    Also IMO, he'd only play if USA is winning 4-0 by the 80' mark.
     
  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Diagree, I think with Altidore's injury, and the likelihood we go 4-2-3-1 again, means Adu is almost certainly on the bench.

    Likely Starting XI:

    -------------Howard--------------
    Dolo---Goodson---Boca---Lichaj
    -------Bradley------Jones--------
    Donovan---Kljestan---Dempsey
    ------------Agudelo---------------

    Bench: GK = Hahnemann; Outside back = Bornstein, CB = Ream CM = Edu, AM: Bedoya; F = Wondolowksi + 1 more spot.

    Bench is based on last game's preferences. It is VERY unlikely you'd see Ream AND Gooch or Bornstein AND Spector, it is either one or the other. The only spot where you don't have a natural replacement is the CAM spot = Adu.

    The options:
    Rimando: no way.
    Spector: possibly instead of Borsntein, probably not both, wouldn't affect Freddy.
    Oneywu: possibly instead of Ream, but not both; won't affect Freddy.
    Altidore = out.
    Rogers = has no business in the roster and hasn't made the bench yet.

    If it was me, I'd go: Hahnemann; Gooch, Spector, Edu, Kljestan (Bedoya starts), Adu, Wondo.

    I think there are only 2 viable options instead of Adu:
    1) Spector (seems unlikely he'd be there in addition to Bornstein)
    2) Dempsey starts and Jaun and Wondo both make the bench, but then our MF subs would be pretty thin
     

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