My once again useless apeal to reform the off side rule

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  1. Yankee_Devil

    Yankee_Devil Member

    Nov 13, 2005
    San Diego, CA
    So if you want soccer to have more scoring better play and open up to a more beautiful game I believe that the off side rule must be changed.

    My proposal is simple fix the rule so off sides would only be applied inside the 18 yard box.

    This in my opinion would cause two very important things

    1. It would liberate the wingers to roam around the wings carrying with the them defenders that in which case would at the same time abandon the middle which would create a more free flowing soccer.

    2. It would still keep the rule for its original intent and that is that the goal would simply not be jammed packed with players simply hanging around to poach in the ball.

    Please feel free to use derogatory terms to describe my conception or that of my parents or other parts of my anatomy which may be shrinking or shriveled or falling from me.

    Thank you.
     
  2. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
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  4. BradDavis

    BradDavis Member

    Mar 30, 2011
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  5. BradDavis

    BradDavis Member

    Mar 30, 2011
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    Thanks!!!! Greatest post ever!!!!!

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  6. TheBiff

    TheBiff Member+

    Apr 8, 2011
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    Real Salt Lake
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    Ecuador
    You do realize that posting this here will never change anything?
     
  7. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    18 is a little rough. How about draw a line at 35 yards from goal and park Giorgio Chinaglia's ass on it all 90 minutes? Has that ever been done before?
     
  8. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    Only because the thread has been created. One aspect of the offside rule I dislike is the player who is heading back in the opposite direction of the attack and gets flagged for the offside. This player poses no advantage whatsoever (he's headed in the wrong direction). Why stop play and change possesion?
     
  9. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    I wish somebody would play one game with this rule just to show everyone how terrible it would be. Each team would park a forward just outside of the offside zone, which would force each team to also dedicate a defender to cover that forward. So, adding the keepers, 6 of the 22 players would rarely cross the center line. Offensive attacks would consist of long balls into the box trying to find the head or foot of this poaching forward.
     
  10. Vander Decken IX

    Feb 13, 2011
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Try watching a U9 game. And if you don't like keepers, watch a U5 game.
     
  11. ShadowNC

    ShadowNC Member

    Apr 25, 2001
    Rocky Mount, NC
    I'll tell you one thing I actually wouldn't mind seeing re-written. Change the wording to exclude the goalkeeper from being part of the offside call.

    For instance the other day against Jamaica, I think the US had someone called offside because the keeper was so far out that there were no longer two defenders keeping our player onside.

    I'd rather see it worded where it's just the last defender excluding the goalkeeper. It just doesn't look right when the attacker hasn't passed the last field playing defender and is called offside because the keeper has gone on walkabout somewhere.
     
  12. YilmazOrhan

    YilmazOrhan Well Brian, I hit it first time...

    Jun 18, 2006
    Suburbia, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
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    United States
    How about a hockey-ish system? Current offside rule applies until the ball is played across some arbitrary line (maybe 22 yards, maybe closer), after that everyone is onside until the ball is played back out.

    Maybe it creates chaos in front of the goal and too many penalty kicks. Maybe it creates boring dump-n-chase with a million crosses from the wings. Maybe it sucks completely, but I'd like to see someone give it a try.
     
  13. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll be honest. I think all these ideas are terrible, with the possible exception of the one-defender no-keeper rule.

    But if there was a TV show where every episode they tried changing one Law of the Game -- the 35-yard offside line, hockey-style penalty boxes instead of cards, bigger goals, etc. -- and then had teams play a few games and showed how it affected the play? I'd watch that.
     
  14. FIFARay007

    FIFARay007 Member

    Feb 25, 2004
    CT
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well a good ref wouldn't flag for offside in this instance, unless the player started to move towards the ball. You're only guilty of offside if you attempt to play the ball or become involved in the play in some manner.
     
  15. The Artist

    The Artist Member+

    Mar 22, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The simple solution is just flag a player offside if his entire body is past the last defender instead of just the top of his head or his knee. I find it ridiculous that in a sport that doesn't use instant replay people get all worked up about whether the attacking player was "leaning" offside. If the player is basically even with the last defender, then he's onside (no eagle-eyed linesmen necessary). If he is clearly beyond the last defender he's offside. Suddenly you've got 5 more shots on goal each game.
     
  16. cougarclaws

    cougarclaws Member

    May 8, 2006
    Lucky's Pub
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    Houston Dynamo
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    United States
  17. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    If the offside rule was called one hundred percent accurate I'd have no problem.
    But AR's miscall about 1-2 per game and of those many would be one on one with the goalie significantly increasing goal chances and goals. Its dismissed during the game on TV simply as offside. No let's not just simply dismiss it. We all know its a human endeavor so this is probably all moot. We know in theory close calls should go to the offensive teams but we all know in reality close calls benefis the defense. If the Offside rule was further detailed that there must be space between offense and defense and that any body part in line is ok. This would allow more calls to benefit the offense and allow the offensive player a full step of 'advantage' Simple clarification I think increases significantly goal scoring opportunities and goals which would decrease goaless draws and draws in general because it will increase average goals per game. JMHO.
     

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