Alejandro Bedoya signs with swedish Örebro SK

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  1. dabes2

    dabes2 Member

    Jun 1, 2003
    Chicago
    Obrien started at Ajax on some great teams.
    Beasley made the champs league semi under hiddink at psv.
    Gibbs started at feyenoord when he was injured.
    Bradley scored 20 goals as a midfielder as heverneen.
    Nothing to sneeze at.

    But we seem to had hit a dry patch w young players. Plus this is also the reputation of the Dutch league as a feeder for the bigger leagues in Europe.
     
  2. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The minimum salary of ~500k for a foreign player (non-EU) plays a part.
     
  3. SoccerBiz

    SoccerBiz Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that is very interesting. That is obviously a huge commitment. Thanks for that bit of knowledge.
     
  4. Howard the Drake

    Feb 27, 2010
    On the other hand, I wonder if the fact that Ale was an injury replacement would hurt him in an appeal. It's a little more difficult to argue that someone is expected to be a big factor going forward when he initially wasn't even included in your 23-man roster (recognizing that there were some politics at play from many angles here).
     
  5. arsenalfc08

    arsenalfc08 Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    This plus it takes 5 years of residence to get dutch citizenship and I'm pretty sure Holland doesn't allow dual citizenship. Anyone who wants dutch citizenship will have to renounce any other citizenships in order to become a naturalized dutch citizen.

    This is assuming a player would want dutch/EU citizenship if they did then Belgium or Poland would be a better option. The minimum salary is a big factor.

    As for England he still isn't close to the 75%, he didn't play in the WC and I'm not sure if he played in qualifying. Although depending on his involvement the next couple of years it could happen.

    Sweden requires 5 years of residence for naturalization, Bedoya's been there since 2009 but obviously seems to be leaving so it doesn't really matter.

    I don't know if he's good enough for Spain but with a Colombian passport he could get Spanish citizenship in 2 years. It may be possible for an English team to sign him and immediatly loan him to Spain for 2 years. It's pretty common but its mostly happening with 18-20 year olds, not 24 year olds.
     
  6. uksailmaker

    uksailmaker New Member

    Apr 5, 2006
    what is the rule for EU passport if a US player married a European
     
  7. alky13

    alky13 Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Manchester/NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that there are offers, but he should look to France.
     
  8. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If she's an EU citizen, you get that countires version of a greencard, and residency status, unless you have a criminal(requirements vary), without any problems, and the same rights while traveling as other EU citizens get when traveling within the EU. After a certain period of time, and needing to learn the language of course, you can apply for the citizenship test. My fiance is an EU citizen.
     
  9. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    First off, let me note that some folks seem to have forgotten a couple of little players named Earnie Stewart and Gregg Berhalter that were developed in the Eredivisie.

    What's more, you can't just look at the straight number and compare it to leagues where 30 Americans have gone.

    Stewart, Berhalter, O'Brien, Bradley, Beasley, Nguyen, Kazlauskas, David Johnson


    I didn't count Rogers because he lit out really fast and didn't come near seeing development through there. Take out Bease because he was largely already developed. So you have seven guys listed with the chance to develop there. Looking from a USMNT standpoint, from that group we got two all-timers (though one had his career cut short by injuries), another possible all-timer and a solid longtime defender.

    Out of seven players there, that is quite a haul. If anyone can think of another league that develops at that rate per chance, I'd love to hear of it.

    These days, the real stumbling blocks are the minimum salary/economy. Dutch clubs have no shortage of much cheaper players that may be better. They need to really believe in a non-EU player to bring them in.

    What needs to happen is more players under 21 (for whom the minimum salary is more like 200 grand a year) need to get themselves there instead of overshooting to places like... say... Benfica, Hamburg or Villarreal (clears throat) where often they don't even get to play their proper top positions. The common occurence of coaching changes make it all even harder to get a foothold.

    Bradley is a really great example to follow, but the players need to insist on it.




    Okay, you are technically correct about the dual citizenship bit, you have kinda run past the issue for most of these guys.

    You can get a Dutch passport without becoming a full citizen that has shed original citizenship - which essentially makes you a category of "citizen".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_passport#Types_of_passports

    The Dutch have no problem with people holding two passports.
     
  10. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    There were also a few Canadians (also North Americans) like Will Johnson and Rob Friend (both Heerenveen).
     
  11. Hobo

    Hobo Member+

    Apr 29, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jonathan de Guzman too
     
  12. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
  13. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    It'll pay well.
     
  14. alky13

    alky13 Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Manchester/NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It better have top class health care.
     
  15. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone with any skill should stay out of Scotland. Horrible move if he goes to Rangers.
     
  16. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Really excited to see which club picks him up this summer.
     
  17. EL MONO MARIO

    EL MONO MARIO Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    Montevideo, Uruguay
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I hope he goes to Holland.
     
  18. FloridaFC2MLS

    FloridaFC2MLS Member

    Oct 17, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    agreed +1
     
  19. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AZ Alkmaar?
     
  20. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seltzer update:

     
  21. McGarnagle

    McGarnagle Member+

    Apr 29, 2010
    Club:
    FC Ingolstadt 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    About the Swedish transfer window, has it changed since Davies went to Sochaux? His move was announced on July 10th according to wiki, so I'm assuming a Bedoya move could happen now with the paperwork completed on August 1st.
     
  22. afgrijselijkheid

    Dec 29, 2002
    mokum
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Well... they can strike and announce an agreed deal beforehand, but it can't go through until August 1st.
     
  23. david_c

    david_c Member

    Jan 11, 2008
    Sweden
    The thing that matters is when the country the buying club has their transfer window.
     
  24. Ceres

    Ceres Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Club:
    AGF Aarhus
    Nat'l Team:
    Denmark
    Exactly... in any case, in Europe you can buy/sell players whenever you want, but the players can only move to other clubs when the transfer window is open., unless they are free agents, handed a free transfer outside the transfer window, then they can also sign with a new team outside the transfer windows.

    So if a club fail to sign a contract before the transfer window is closed, then they can still buy the player, but have to wait until the next transfer window for the player to actually join and play the club.
    .
     
  25. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Recent example: the Chicago Fire sold Gaston Puerari to Atlas at a time when the MLS transfer window was closed, but the Mexican transfer window was open.
     

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