If we dont win the Gold Cup, will Bob get fired or he"ll stay?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by Elvis Minaya, Jun 8, 2011.

  1. Bolo

    Bolo New Member

    Jan 16, 2007
    Yea..I love me some BS-G :)

    Us soccer press = Baltar
     
  2. drgonzo

    drgonzo Member+

    Jun 1, 2011
    Club:
    San Diego Flash
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Even if we crash out of the Gold Cup I don't think the USSF has the money to continue paying Bradley and sign up another coach who we can afford that is much better then Bob. Sadly I just don't see it happening.
     
  3. starbuck9000

    starbuck9000 Red Card

    May 17, 2011

    if its an embarrassing exit they'll find the money.
     
  4. golazo_usa

    golazo_usa Member

    Oct 2, 1999
    USSF has money. They made a ton from hosting World Cup '94. Hopefully that was well invested since they haven't spent much of it since.

    Also consider all the US matches they host each year, and esp. the yearly
    ones against Mexico. Furthermore, they get a 70/30 or 60/40 cut of all the
    Mexico games played in the US. I think this also applies to the Mexican club
    friendlies on US soil.
     
  5. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    It's always so easy to spot the people who bounce at least one check a month.
     
  6. Elvis Minaya

    Elvis Minaya Member

    Sep 22, 2008
    Valparaiso, Chile
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    So we all agree that if we dont win the Gold Cup clueless Bob should go. At least this is what I'm reading in here for the most part. Let's all hope we beat Jamaica (that looked very good vs Honduras BTW), then the semi and then the Final. It will be a long road for clueless Bob, but we will see.
     
  7. TabLalas

    TabLalas Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Honestly, I'd say it's already borderline on whether Bradley should be retained for WC qualifying.
    If the U.S doesn't make the final I'd certainly say so.
    If we lose to Jamaica then all 100 U.S soccer supporters should storm the USSF headquarters in grand fashion.
     
  8. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley was signed thru 2014, can USSF legally fire him and what it'll cost them to do so? I didn't see his contract, but is it reasonable to assume that he can be fired and USSF will have to pay him the remainder of his contract (~600K annually)?
     
  9. anazarn

    anazarn Member

    May 27, 2008
    El Paso
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If Bob was serious about player development our guys would be eating WAY more Mexican beef.
    He needs to go.
     
  10. Footy Fan

    Footy Fan Member

    Aug 7, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Sadly I agree even tho I really dislike BB as our coach. I see it happening no matter what because wasn't the big reasons why the USSF didn't go with someone else was due to Power/Control and Money. (BB = cheap and easy to control/doesn't want or atleast ask for more power)
     
  11. Aduesque

    Aduesque Member

    Atlanta United
    May 11, 2010
    Georgia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the Turkish FA has the money, if Algeria has the money, how the hell does the USSF not have the money?
     
  12. Footy Fan

    Footy Fan Member

    Aug 7, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We have an economics professor as the president of our federation ;)

    On a serious note the way they structure their contracts may also be different especially Algeria with looking at their history none of their coaches last longer than a year or two with the exception of Rabah Saâdane (whereas we've now gone with the we are committing this coach to be our coach for this cycle philosophy). Also looking more into it they have a lot more coaches resign even tho I don't have the stats on that for US sports in general I'm pretty certain that doesn't happen very often unless their is some embarrassing scandal such as cheating (in the game or on their wives ;)
     
  13. Scott e Dio93

    Scott e Dio93 New Member

    Jul 1, 2006
    Montevideo, URU
    the chicks take large part of it without doing much.
     
  14. Footy Fan

    Footy Fan Member

    Aug 7, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    They've actually won $hit so your comment is way off base
     
  15. futbal4eva

    futbal4eva Member+

    Jan 3, 2010
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    I'm fine with the chicks getting a cut; but that doesn't explain only being able to 'afford' Bob for USMNT. Paying off his contract in full is just a $1m hit, which can't be a big deal for USSF seriously, that's like spare change left over from the USSF's cut of the high ticket prices charged for the Spain - US friendly.

    So only serious answer is the USSF powers that be whether chicks or not, don't want to relinquish the power which would go with the money to a Bielsa, Klinsmann, or other higher profile, experienced coach. And since Klinsmann is aready loaded he is willing to be a reasonaby priced date himself I understand, though I assume it would have to be closer to $1m just so other national team coaches don;t laugh in his face.

    But the fact that we are afraid of Jamaica - a nation we have never lost to - as having a serious chance to defeat US, should be telling the USSF powers that be of all genders/persuasions - that they CAN kill the golden goose if USMNT is perceived as lightweight laughingstock.

    But yeah,most likely US scrapes out a win over jamaica, and Bob and USSF muddle along; only killing our slim chances of a decent run in Brazil.

    But as long as they are fat and happy at Soccer House, and the Columbia U lecturer can afford his global jaunts, I guess that is good enough for us all right?
     
  16. Footy Fan

    Footy Fan Member

    Aug 7, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I agree that no matter what the USSF should be able to money wise afford to let BB go but the problem is they are basically penny pinchers which even tho they have grossed enough money way back was the whole basis for why way back the women went on strike for a bit (only reason I bring this up is because it illustrates how cheap the USSF is and yes I know the men and women or different but the USSF is still the same). Sadly there really isn't a way that our men's players could help the USSF to ease up on their penny pinching ways. It's sad because it is hurting our chances of getting better, more wins/higher profile wins thus increasing interest and posible income.
     
  17. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who the hell is afraid of Jamaica?
     
  18. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego Loyal
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    umm to get back to the question at hand, YES he should be fired if we lose to Jamaica, anyone debating anything else?

    (and for the record I was fine with him keeping his job after 2010 I actually think he is a good manager :eek:)
     
  19. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Question is if USSF can fire him? Is there termination clause in his contract? How much should they pay him if he is terminated?
     
  20. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego Loyal
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shows you how difficult his position has become that the only debate is is economically feasible to fire him, not whether or not he should go. Hope we blow Jamaica out of the water and eventually make the final so we won't need this debate.
     
  21. Dr 7

    Dr 7 New Member

    Jun 15, 2011
    Reminds me of a country from across the pond.
     
  22. owian

    owian Member+

    Liverpool FC, San Diego Loyal
    May 17, 2002
    San Diego
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also shows how far US Soccer is advancing. In previous WC cycles a US nats coach had no concern of this even being a national story. Unlike certain Swedes and Italians. Losing to anyone outside of the world cup only brought critism from well us:)
     
  23. Non-dairy Creamer

    Feb 28, 2007
    this is the magical question I've been asking all along. But none of the rabid soccer media types have reported this to my knowledge.

    all this talk is just conjecture if we don't at least know the facts regarding his contract. No buyout clause = probably no chance of him being fired.
     
  24. futbal4eva

    futbal4eva Member+

    Jan 3, 2010
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Of course Bob can be canned on a moment's notice; he's a coach. Soccer House lawyers would have made sure of that.

    Bob's lawyers would have made sure his contract ensures he gets most or all the balance due in event he is canned.

    Anyway yeah let's hope for best against Jamaica; but can;t legally be a major problem to move on to a new coach, happens all the time.

    So, Financially...apparently it's a cabal of cheapskates at Soccer House that are nickle and diming the men's national team? Ni matter how we do at Gold Cup?
     
  25. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I assume that the shorter is our run in Gold Cup the less money USSF will be making, so successful coach makes more money for federation.
     

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