[FONT="]Jan. 22, 2011[/FONT] [FONT="]U.S. Men vs. Chile[/FONT] [FONT="]1-1 T[/FONT] [FONT="]Bunbury[/FONT] [FONT="]The Home Depot Center Carson, Calif.[/FONT] [FONT="]18,580 [/FONT] [FONT="]March 26, 2011[/FONT] [FONT="]U.S. Men vs. Argentina[/FONT] [FONT="]1-1 T[/FONT] [FONT="]Agudelo[/FONT] [FONT="]New Meadowlands Stadium E. Rutherford, N.J.[/FONT] [FONT="]78,936 [/FONT] [FONT="]March 29, 2011[/FONT] [FONT="]U.S. Men vs. Paraguay[/FONT] [FONT="]0-1 L[/FONT] [FONT="]--[/FONT] [FONT="]LP Field Nashville, Tenn.[/FONT] [FONT="]29,059 [/FONT] [FONT="]June 4, 2011[/FONT] [FONT="]U.S. Men vs. Spain[/FONT] [FONT="]0-4 L[/FONT] [FONT="]--[/FONT] [FONT="]Gillette Stadium Foxborough, Mass.[/FONT] [FONT="]64,121 [/FONT] [FONT="]June 7, 2011[/FONT] [FONT="]U.S. Men vs. Canada[/FONT] [FONT="]2-0 W[/FONT] [FONT="]Altidore, Dempsey[/FONT] [FONT="]Ford Field Detroit, Mich.[/FONT] [FONT="]28,209 [/FONT] [FONT="]June 11, 2011[/FONT] [FONT="]U.S. Men vs. Panama 2-1 Loss [/FONT] [FONT="]==========================================================================[/FONT] [FONT="] 2010 results: 5W, 5D, 4L[/FONT] [FONT="]Nov 17 10 W 1-0 South Africa 52,000 Cape Town, South Africa[/FONT] [FONT="] Agudelo (65)[/FONT] [FONT="]Oct 12 10 D 0-0 Columbia 8,823 Chester, PA, USA[/FONT] [FONT="]Oct 09 10 D 2-2 Poland 31,696 Chicago, IL, USA[/FONT] [FONT="] Altidore (13), Onyewu (52)[/FONT] [FONT="]Aug 10 10 L 0-2 Brazil 77,223 East Rutherford, NJ, USA[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 26 10 L 1-2 Ghana 34,976 Rustenburg, South Africa (WC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Donovan (62)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 23 10 W 1-0 Algeria 35,827 Pretoria, South Africa (WC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Donovan (91)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 18 10 D 2-2 Slovenia 45,573 Johannesburg, South Africa (WC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Donovan (48), Bradley (82)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 12 10 D 1-1 England 38,646 Rustenburg, South Africa (WC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Dempsey (40)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 05 10 W 3-1 Australia 6,000 Roodespoort, South Africa[/FONT] [FONT="] Buddle (4, 31), Gomez (93)[/FONT] [FONT="]May 29 10 W 2-1 Turkey 55,407 Philadelphia, PA, USA[/FONT] [FONT="] Altidore (58), Dempsey (75)[/FONT] [FONT="]May 25 10 L 4-2 Czech Republic 36,218 East Hartford, CT, USA[/FONT] [FONT="] Edu (17), Gomez (65)[/FONT] [FONT="]Mar 03 10 L 1-2 Netherlands 46,630 Amsterdam, Neth.[/FONT] [FONT="] Bocanegra (88)[/FONT] [FONT="]Feb 24 10 W 2-1 El Salvador 21,737 Tampa, FL, USA[/FONT] [FONT="] Ching (75), Cljestan (92)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jan 23 10 L 1-3 Honduras 18,626 Carson, CA, USA[/FONT] [FONT="] Goodson (70)[/FONT] [FONT="]==========================================================================[/FONT] [FONT="] 2009 Totals: 13W, 3D, 8L[/FONT] [FONT="]Nov 18 09 L 1-3 Denmark 15,172 Aarhus, Denmark[/FONT] [FONT="] Cunningham (26)[/FONT] [FONT="]Nov 14 09 L 0-1 Slovakia 7,200 Bratislava, Slovakia[/FONT] [FONT="]Oct 14 09 D 2-2 Costa Rica 26,243 Washington, DC, USA (WCQ’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Bradley, Bornstein[/FONT] [FONT="]Oct 10 09 W 3-2 Honduras 37,000 San Pedro Sula, Honduras (WCQ’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Casey (2), Donovan[/FONT] [FONT="]Sep 09 09 W 1-0 Trinidad & Tobago Port of Spain, Trinidad (WCQ’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Clark (62)[/FONT] [FONT="]Sep 05 09 W 2-1 El Salvador 19,066 Sandy, UT, USA (WCQ’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Dempsey (41), Altidore (45+2)[/FONT] [FONT="]Aug 12 09 L 1-2 Mexico 110,000 Mexico City, MX (WCQ’10 )[/FONT] [FONT="] Davies (9)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jul 26 09 L 0-5 Mexico 79,156 East Rutherford, NJ, USA (GC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jul 23 09 W 2-0 Honduras 55,173 Chicago, IL, USA (GC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Goodson (45), Cooper (90)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jul 18 09 W 2-1 Panama 31,087 Philadelphia, PA, USA (GC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Beckerman (49), Cooper (105+-PK)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jul 11 09 D 2-2 Haiti 24,137 Foxboro, MA, USA (GC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Arnaud (6), Holden (92)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jul 08 09 W 2-0 Honduras 26,079 Washington, DC, USA (GC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Quaranta (75), Ching (79)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jul 04 09 W 4-0 Grenada 15,387 Seattle, WA, USA (GC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Adu (7), Holden (31), Rogers (60), Davies (68)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 28 09 L 2-3 Brazil 52,291 Johannesburg, South Africa (CC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Dempsey (10), Donovan (74)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 24 09 W 2-0 Spain 35,396 Bloemfontein, South Africa (CC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Altidore (27), Dempsey (74)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 21 09 W 3-0 Egypt 23,140 Rustenburg, South Africa (CC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Davies (21), Bradley (63), Dempsey (71)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 18 09 L 0-3 Brazil 39,617 Pretoria, South Africa (CC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 15 09 L 1-3 Italy 34,341 Pretoria, South Africa (CC’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Donovan (41-PK)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 06 09 W 2-1 Honduras 55,647 Chicago, IL, USA (WCQ’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Donovan (43-PK), Bocanegra (68)[/FONT] [FONT="]Jun 03 09 L 1-3 Costa Rica 19,200 San Jose, Costa Rica (WCQ’10)[/FONT] [FONT="] Donovan (92-PK)[/FONT] 16 wins: Canada, South Africa, Algeria, Australia, Turkey, El Salvador, Honduras (4), Panama, Grenada, Spain, Egypt, Trinidad/Tobago 16 losses: Costa Rica, Italy, Brazil (2), Mexico (2), Slovakia, Denmark, Honduras, Netherlands, Czech Republik, Ghana, Brazil, Spain, Paraguay, Panama 8 ties: Haiti, Costa Rica, England, Slovenia, Poland, Columbia, Argentina, Chile GF 60, GA 60 ** I'd think this is the worst 2 year record of any coach since 1990, but I could be wrong. SINCE BEGINNING OF WORLD CUP '10: 3 WINS, 5 LOSSES, 6 TIES ***** shouldn't Bob have to win Gold Cup to keep his job? *****
I'm not defending the record, it speaks for itself (not so good), but only three of those stand out as being particularly unacceptable.
Great post. The program is declining. It's been clear for a couple of years that we need to go in a new direction.
there is really no defense for a guy in charge of the US' first ever gold cup group stage loss, when we have the two best attackers in US history
We needed new blood after the world cup. There is no fight for any position. It is the same old , same old. Bradley is a bore, complete bore who has no emotions and it is time for a change.
Which three? I see five unacceptable to me: 0-4 loss to Spain at home 2-1 loss to Panama at home 3-1 loss to Honduras at home 0-5 loss to Mexico at home 2-2 tie to Haiti at home Spain may be a great team but losing 4-0 at home on the eve of the Gold Cup is ludicrous.
As I said after this match, the USSF let Bob down by scheduling this so close, but Bob let 65,000 paying fans down. Ok, maybe only 35k as the rest were happy with the result. This was not the moment to pull this marketing marvel. We are not far enough along where we can alienate our fledgling yet growing fan base. This was careless and might in the end cost him the job as virtually no one will support him during the bad times. Does he care? who knows, I think he did Sunil a huge favor taking the job in the first place.
I'm not defending him, but to be fair, you need to keep in mind who was on the pitch for the US in a few of these so-called disappointing draws/losses.
We reached the finals of a major international tournament, and we finished first in our World Cup group. What else do you want?! Just give it some time. Bob is the best we've got.
Seriously, who hacked this account? Mods should check it out unless it is a mod prank in which case it's funny.
He picked the team. It's his decisions on tactics, formations, starts, subs, everything. Keep in mind that it was Panama, the 67th ranked team.
One thing: It's been a long time since we've been blown out this regularly by top-level competition. Sure Spain is outstanding. But we should never lose 4-0 at home. Brazil is talented. But it was a bunch of teenagers playing a team that just won its WC group, and we rarely lose to Brazil that badly. Argentina was a draw, but that was all Tim - we were sorely outplayed.
The trend is definently in the wrong direction. Bob started out undefeated for many games as US Men's coach many years ago. As demonstrated, he became mediocre over last 2 years. This past year, in particular- he is a sub-500 coach. This is the wrong, wrong direction. There is a reason why you don't get a lot of head coaches sticking around for a 2nd cycle. This should be particularly true if they are not strong tactically. Players get complacent, and they have heard everything you have to say ad nauseum. As a non-tactical, 2nd cycle coach, you are bound to be less effective. Even our best win (against Spain in Confed Cup) is basically negated by this recent loss- since it is clear how much better they are....we just caught them on an off day a couple years ago (and bunkered like crazy). We could not replicate that Spain victory anymore even if we tried...at least not under Bob.
I wasn't talking about Panama and I don't disagree with you this is an awful loss, but there are some other games people are criticizing where they played guys like Heaps, Beckerman, Pearce, Ching, and such because it was a meaningless game.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's time for Bradley to go too, BUT: Some of those losses were pretty meaningless w/ understrength squad. He does pick the team and tactics, true, but if he didn't experiment (resulting in a loss) and instead went safer (getting a win), most of you would be criticizing him for being "play it safe Bob" again. The other thing I'd point to is Arena's record his last two years. I don't think we're any worse, but we're not any better either: WC run-up: less than confidence building wins v. Venezuela + Latvia and the Morocco loss. We were at better strength than these teams. WC: crap game v. Czech. Gutsy draw v. Italy (same result as the recent WC match v. England, but a better played game), and a squandered opportunity v. Ghana (like the recent one except worse for me). Gold Cup in 2005. We won, but we also did it in penalties against...Panama. Other Euro friendlies: -2-1 Loss @ Soldier Field to England which was worse than the score line. Considering roster strength and the lack of Gold Cup distraction, this was not much different than the recent Spain loss. -Got our ass beat at Germany -Defeated Poland 1-0 (solid result) -Drew Scotland (not a good Euro side) -crushed Norway 5-0 at home, who played no first teamers that match and had only 3 on their bench. We had a solid core that included guys like Donovan and Dempsey. We get a run of luck/good play here or there, but the long term trend to me looks like one of stagnation rather than regression.
The trend is terrible for 2 years now... more blowout losses....more losses period.....squeak by wins... definitely going in wrong direction....this is a trend, with data behind it. this was not just a one-off loss..... of course (and right on time!) we get guadeloupe and another CONCACAF minnow or 2.....just what the doctor ordered for Bob to right the ship!
I think this is an example of what happens when you take sarcasm so far that it becomes unintentional sincerity.
okay look, to me a loss to many of the teams we play isn't so bad. i mean we are playing good teams and i credit bob for helping to set those up. the losses in themselves don't mean crap to me. it's the way the team plays. that's what matters.