Obama failure watch, part III

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  1. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
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    Poland
    Re: From the "They told me if I voted for McCain our President would be a doofus" department

    'laser focused on jobs' at last!!
     
  2. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: From the "They told me if I voted for McCain our President would be a doofus" department

    And if he didn't say this shit, people would say he's doing nothing about jobs. Rock and a hard place...poor guy.:rolleyes:
     
  3. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Atlanta
    Re: From the "They told me if I voted for McCain our President would be a doofus" department

    What are you talking about? Exactly how many jobs does Obama's display of economic ignorance "save or create".
     
  4. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Atlanta
    Re: From the "They told me if I voted for McCain our President would be a doofus" department

    Focused on jobs? I think you misspelled "fuck us".
     
  5. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    Re: From the "They told me if I voted for McCain our President would be a doofus" department

    Certainly not John Ensign's...bazinga.
     
  6. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
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    Nearly 20 percent of new Obamacare waivers are gourmet restaurants, nightclubs, fancy hotels in Nancy Pelosi’s district

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller...tclubsfancyhotelsinnancypelosie28099sdistrict

    Oh yeah, and we hit the debt ceiling yesterday so your social security money is being used to fund the government. Lovely, eh?

    (Disclaimer: This is a fail on both sides)
     
  7. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Not to split hairs here, because lord knows I respect the intention behind the post. However... Nancy Pelosi's district is California's 8th District which is pretty much what we know as "San Francisco". There are parts of SF that fall outside of it, but really, for the most part they are the outlying "suburbs" of the city (Daly City, the outer Sunset, too I think).

    I'm a little disappointed that this article fails to mention that these restaurants, hotels, spa's, etc represent a tourism industry that's worth about 8 billion-with-a-B dollars to California. No, it's not a car factory in Birmingham, but it's a massive industry that employs thousands upon thousands of people.

    So as someone who grew up in an honest tax-paying middle-class family that happened to derive its income from the hospitality industry, I take offense and the snotty-ass attitude of this writer chortling at the idea of someone trying to run a decent restaurant.
     
  8. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    Point well taken. I just wonder if other tourist cities (NY, Chicago, Miami, Etc.) got the same treatment.

    BTW, does it make me a snob if a $59 porterhouse or a $39 filet doesn't shock me?
     
  9. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Oh, I'm sure Nancy's doing her part, don't get me wrong. And the whole waiver issue is nauseating. I just wish there wasn't the ********ing culture warrior attitude behind it. And I say this as an Angeleno (who admittedly lived in SF for a few years during grad school, got married there, and still has family there).

    :D I was gonna say the same thing! I mean, that's a decent price in lots of places, especially in somewhere like Manhattan.
     
  10. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    It's hard to take any "news" article seriously that uses the term "Obamacare.". That suggests such a huge bias that there is virtually no credibility from that point forward.
     
  11. saosebastiao

    saosebastiao New Member

    May 22, 2005
    Metaphorically speaking, we don't have to refer to a pile of shit as "Fecal Matter" for us to correctly and factually assert that it stinks.
     
  12. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
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    United States
    You're an idiot.

    This whole waivers nonsense pisses me off. I understand the economic rationale, but it's being abused like a pork-barrel project. And we're going to have to endure years of debate on waivers in all kinds of legislation before some President in the future realizes they're a shitty idea.
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Good point, Chris. I would also add, who the ******** cares which district? Is Pelosi supposed to be responsible for the private businesses in her district? Classic example of lazy argumentation. You're just supposed to make connections between your "team" and the "enemy." You're not supposed to ask why.
     
  14. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    United States
    Okay. Why? I've got my theories.
     
  15. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    It's not a news article, it's an op-ed piece masquerading as a news article. Internet journalism, such as it is.
     
  16. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
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    Sure does when you can get a delicious $9.99 Sirloin steak at Sizzler with free refills and a dessert.
     
  17. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Atlanta
    Funny, I was told the # of new waivers would dwindle down to nothing after Dec enrollment deadlines passed.
     
  18. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    I meant, the correlation-equals-causation line of argument. It's all implication.
     
  19. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
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    Seems like they were trying to ask and getting no answers.

    Are the numbers in dispute? If not, that's the 'why' I'm interested in. Why does 1 district out of 435 gets 20% of waivers?
     
  20. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
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    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A better question is if Pelosi's district has received a disproportionate share of waivers every round of applications...if nobody from her district got waivers beforehand, then you should look at the overall picture. If it's every round that she's got waivers disproportionately, then yes a red flag ought to go up.

    Is this the case?
     
  21. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Why are you asking us? Ask the piece of shit author who wrote the "news" article. Did he ask anyone why? Or did he simply see an opportunity to bash without a need to connect the dots. I don't waste my time trying to confirm or discredit crap journalism. I just recognize what it is and move on. If you want answers, go find them.
     
  22. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
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    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    I'm asking in general. Maybe you know more about this than I do since you are in the country. I don't know.
     
  23. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Nope.
     
  24. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    The implication here is that the waiver process bears some resemblance to West Point and Annapolis appointments-- that Congresspeople "get" them for constituents?

    Is it true? Or are Pelosi's constituents merely the ones applying or getting the applications correct or something? Anyone know how the process works?
     
  25. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
    Mid-City LA
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    Los Angeles Galaxy
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    United States
    Well, to be fair, it's new waivers, i.e. the latest round.
     

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