The Balance Sheet: Financial Discussion Part 3

* runs to the corner crying *

 

Also, the Niffle has a blackout rule. If the Bucs don't fill their stadium over a certain amount (I think its 75% but don't quote me), their game can't be televised in the local market. That's a significant hit to advertising value, team exposure, etc. so there's a huge factor in needing to keep attendances up.

 

that's exactly right. the Glazers were buying unsold tix in the past so the game could be "sold out" for that very reason.

they should just sell the Bucs and put all that money into paying down United's debt

 

Manchester United Set To Post $170 Million Operating Profit This Season

Manchester United, already the most valuable and profitable sports team in the world, is set to see its worth and profitability increase dramatically because of its success on the pitch this season.

The Red Devils, owned by the billionaire Glazer family, defeated Celsea 2-1 on Sunday, giving them a virtually insurmountable six point lead in the Premier League with just two games remaining in the season. In addition, ManU plays Spain’s Barcelona May 28 at Wembley Stadium for the Champions League title. Capturing both the Premiership and Champions League titles will mean roughly $85 million in additional revenue for Manchester United and would allow the club to post an operating profit (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) of at least $170 million for the 2010-11 season, $22 million more than the previous season.

With commercial revenue also increasing, the value of the English soccer club will be in the neighborhood of $2 billion.

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian...ted-set-to-post-170-million-operating-profit/

 

If you're going to base it on also winning the CL title, then that's great. But I'd rather just have the number with the EPL title and then let what may be, be.

 

I don't think winning the CL is 'that' much more. TV revenue split is the same.

Unless of course you factor in potential commercials gains, but again, it's not like we're Chelsea winning our first here.

 

Actually the English get more of the TV split than the Spanish as the english deal is more lucrative.

I think we pretty much got the same amount if not more than Barca in 2009 ,when we lost the final.

Winning the final would probably mean about 4/5 million max extra in prize money.Not sure if they have changed it with the new deals.

 

EPL TV Money up to £57m for Champions. I wonder if Forbes took the increase into consideration.

http://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-united/6923619/Record-TV-revenue-for-PL-teams

 

This may be somewhat counter productive in the short term for us but I hope we don't get our own tv deal. While the extra money would be good in the immediate future I think it would kill the league much in the me way that we are seeing in la liga wit regards to quality from top to bottom. It'll be interesting in five or six years what happens with la liga because it won't even be a real challenge anymore to be at the top. Barcelona and Madrid are going to distane themselves so much that it won't even be fair. I don't want that to happen to England and I think it is in the best interest of thie league to continue a single tv deal.

 

Winning the league in the previous seasons is the best way to maximize our CL tv revenues.

Staying for the full 13 games is the best way to maximize our matchday revenues.


As for an individual tv deal, that's not going to fly. However, an individual internal/new digital media deal is imo almost guaranteed to occur when the deal is renegotiated in a couple of years.

 

This is what Ian Ayre said about the 39th game when he was specifically asked about it by Management Today.

Are you a believer in the 39th game?
I don't know - it's fraught with lots of issues. But somehow we have a duty to fans around the world to give them access to the product. So never say never. What was unfortunate about last time was that the idea was created as some kind of reality before it had been thought through. And whatever's going to happen in football, it needs to have been absolutely thought through and every element considered - what's right and proper for the fans, the club, the league, the confederation, the local markets where you'd play. It all needs to be properly considered and I don't think last time that was the case

http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/ne...ransformed-liverpool-fcs-commercial-fortunes/

 

It'll be a farce if that occurs. Could you imagine the uproar if the extra game Chelsea drew was against, say City, and ours was against a newly promoted side? It's a complete competitive disadvantage.

 

Football would be dead in my eyes if that happens.....

 

I'd quit.

 

It's the competitive disadvantage that upsets me the most. But there are so many issues that could cause anger over this. First of all, travel like that takes the piss out of people, no matter how comfortable you try to make it. Even the actual physical task of flying is not great for one's body - we hear about how Park's knee injury was always inflamed by him having to fly to Korea for intls. Then you have the issue about who has to travel how far.

Say we got a game in New York City. Not close, but an overnight trip and not horrendous. Then imagine Arsenal having to go to effing China or Hong Kong. That's just one of the hundreds of issues this causes. Revenue splitting, TV rights, we can keep going.

But the most important thing to me is the competitive unbalance of the league that would create by the extra game.

 

I still can't believe the NFL agreed to it.

 

What is "NFL"?

 

What the prem should do if they want to give Prem football to other countries is create a preseason league that features 4 premiership teams that rotates on a yearly basis in location and the teams that enter it.

 

I think what we currently do is fine...rotating where the team does their preseason to the most popular markets is great for the fans and the team.

 

Just do a minor preseason tournament. Offer a little trophy and thats it.

 

And scrap the CS...

Just make the tournament qualifiers those in Europe from the PL that year. Both Cl and Europa.

 

I'd use the teams that would play in the CS + 4th and 5th place.

They won't scrap the CS, though. In that situation, I'd make it two of the top 5 + 2 other teams.

 

Didn't they already have a EPL Asia trophy Preseason?

I think they already have had 3 seasons of it.