Post-match: San Jose Earthquakes - Seattle Sounders FC (Saturday, 4/2) postgame thread [R]

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  1. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Well, we are completely aligned then in our views.

    I can guarantee Frank a win next week if he plays this lineup: :)

    -----------Lenhart----------
    Convey--Dawkins--Wondo--Ellis
    ------------BMac---------
    Ramiro--Ike---Jason----Leitch
    ------------Bush----------
     
  2. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with this regardless of the formation... to get Opara in the game. Cronin ain't that good (he is playing better so far this year however) and this move makes the defense much stronger over all. Plus I think we've got enough midfield attack between Dawkins and Stephenson.

    It will be interesting when (if) Luiz returns.
     
  4. Aquari

    Aquari New Member

    Jul 5, 2004
    I was really entertained by this match. It didn't help my blood pressure but it was exciting and fast! I like that. What I was sort of disappointed about is the fact that we gave away so many passes. I mean, we did a lot of passing yes but we also gave away so many and then we're left to scramble on the counter.

    Considering we dominated the match by 5% (going on possession), the result was fair I thought. But we could've won.
     
  5. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The supporters groups sounded pretty loud on TV and they gave us plenty of shots of the Ultras.

    ?New Stadium Stuff? Do you refer to banners in the stands? or was there some sort of announcement that I missed?

    I disagree. BMac's distribution is crap. Also, he's not very fast. Cronin isn't a destroyer type d-mid, but he steals the ball from the enemy plenty. His pace allows him to disrupt enemy attacks even late into the game. And his distribution is way better than BMac's. Cronin does not always make the safe pass. He is more judicious about sending a ball long, or making an aggressive attack springing pass, but he does do it, and he does it effectively.

    What we need behind Dawkins is a guy who can get him the ball, not someone who is going to turn it over to the other team seven or eight times out of ten. Cronin controls the ball and the game in the middle of the park. BMac is just a destroyer. He's more suited to last year's hoof it long strategy than this year's play for possession and finesse team.

    Cronin has been one of our best players these first three games. Replacing him would be a mistake.

    GO QUAKES!!! :D

    - Mark
     
  6. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    More food and drink choices was what I saw, plus cute girls to deliver all to your seat (for $1 extra, which is not a big deal when you consider how overpriced most of it was already).
     
  7. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    We may need to educate them a little bit. I saw some teenage girls clapping and moving with the cheer and rhythm of the Sounders support group, and they probably thought they were pretty cool. Q should come up and point them to the Ultras.
     
  8. S.J. Jim

    S.J. Jim Member+

    Jun 11, 2006
    S.J.
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not crazy about Cronin, but I don't agree about putting BMac further upfield as a "defensive 1". The more he has to tackle in open spaces, and the more he has to handle/distribute the ball, the more of a liability BMac is. I saw all I needed to see of him in that role last year, before he was moved to the back line.

    Pretty entertaining game overall. Better attack through midfield, more fun to watch. Ref was garbage, but unless we can defend better, we still don't deserve to win matches like this one. Hernandez should be handed smelling salts every ten minutes or so during a game.

    I said it repeatedly last year... Gjertsen is not MLS quality. It amazes me that Frank is still starting him.

    RJ was good in this game in terms of maintaining possession. The problem is, we were either behind or tied for the whole game, and RJ slowed our attack way too much.

    Wondo should not be playing midfield (dear god, how many times do we have to say this). Yes, he can still get into the attack from there, and yes, he's a pretty good passer, but he can't defend very well. The more time he spends up top, the more goals he's going to get. He looks fantastic right now in terms of being sharp and aggressive. Play him up top!

    Ike should have played far more minutes, if not a full 90. I mean... DUH?

    Yallop is so hard to figure out.
     
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Last year when we had our good start we had Ike and Jason in the center with BMAC at d-mid in front of them.

    Cronin does not do much defensively and he is not very fast. I watched the Dallas game twice, the second time focusing primarily on Cronin. His defensive contribution was negligible.

    Your 7 or 8 out of ten comment is a complete exaggeration. Sure he may have a couple more errant passes than Cronin, but, with his defensive abilities we will have a net gain in possession. And then there is the huge advantage his size gives us on set pieces. Cronin is a great second half sub for when we have a lead and Frank wants us to bunker down and play rope-a-dope.
     
  11. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I think BMac can get into a little trouble when he tries to make a lower percentage pass. But this can be mitigated two ways. 1) You coach him to make the safe Cronin square or back pass that my grandmother could make, and 2) he would now be playing behind 4 midfielders so there is less of a need to play a lower percentage pass. I think the defensive "1" is the best role for him, better than center back.
     
  12. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really, really, enjoyed the game. Nice to see the Quakes control games and score some nice goals. Other than some defensive breakdowns and poor officiating it was one of the best games that I have seen since the return of the Quakes.

    It was nice to see the Quakes control the game (although Seattle likes to play a lot of counterattack ball). I was especially impressed with our patience in the final third of the field. In past years, it was usually a "fast attack" and either success of failure...mostly failures.

    I know that there will be some up's and down's with Dawkins, but I like his ability to play a short game in the middle and put pressure in the middle of the field. He will definately open space for Convey and whoever plays right mid. I agree with the calls for Joey to sit and for Opara to start. Joey is not a threat on the right side and we need better air support both in defense and on set attackes. With the nubmer of ties this past weekend, there are going to be a lot of close games which are going to come down to set plays...

    Lastly, Leitch and Corrales are playing for their support in offense, not for their defense. Kind of surprising from Frank. Still, we are exposed on the flanks and it's no surpise that each goal was directly or indirectly the result of problems with them. Not sure of the solution at the moment (not sure Ward or Beta is the answer)...
     
  13. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. S.J. Jim

    S.J. Jim Member+

    Jun 11, 2006
    S.J.
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More than BMac's passing in defensive midfield, I worry about his tackling. When he's playing in the back line, and many of his tackles are in a more condensed space like a crowded penalty area, we're less likely to see those dreaded "air tackles" that he patented last year. Or, maybe he's become more skillful at tackling players going at higher speeds in more open areas. I sure hope so, if he's ever moved into defensive midfield again.
     
  15. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ECS must have added "Friday" to their repertoire.
     
  16. QuietType

    QuietType Member+

    Jun 6, 2009
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol.. well, to be honest, some of the Ultras chants aren't very catchy or pleasant. (please, flame away). Not surprised if there were newbie fans there chanting along with the large contingent of Sounders fans who came down for the game. They were sure having a good time!
     
  17. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I will be sad to see Keller retire.....
     
  18. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    You evidently didn't listen to what they were saying. The ECS had a healthy quantity of profanity in their chants, not to mention a couple unoriginal ones in very bad taste concerning leaving injured players to die on the pitch and disposing of their lifeless bodies there. Of course, in ECS's defense, they "sure were having a good time!"

    In fairness, that same defense can be claimed by the Ultras, too. Ten-to-one, they had a better time than ECS.
     
  19. CuscatlecoAzul

    Jun 9, 2009
    Bay AREA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    The newest Ultra Favorite, another one added to the long list of immortals.... There's only one Sammy Cronin, One Sammy Cronin, theres only one Sammy Cronin.
     
  20. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I even remember the days when Keller and Friedel were the consensus #1 and #2 GK's for the U.S. National Team... and not always in that order (I'm old! :(). :eek:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :(


    -G
     
  21. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Okay, kids, just had to deep six a bunch of posts. If we want to discuss in-game fan support, let's try to do it in a positive, constructive way. Personal attacks and sniping = not cool.
     
  23. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I object to the binning of my posts. None were personal attacks.

    I pointed out in response to the romanticization of ECS and denigration of the Ultras by a Quakes fan -- who said that the Ultras chants were neither "catchy" nor "pleasant" and meanwhile that ECS seemed to be having lots of fun -- that ECS used profanity-laden chants disparaging silent Quakes fans and advocated lethal violence against Quakes players during their revelry in our stadium.

    My characterization of the facts was never challenged and the record reflecting such facts should not be censored.
     
  24. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    It's not about facts. It's about tone. I appreciate your restating the points you made in your other post, and trust that other posters will follow your lead and attempt to maintain a civil discourse. It is a topic worth discussing.
     
  25. FCSF

    FCSF Member

    Apr 27, 2006
    SF, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Just got to watch this last night due to a crazy weekend. I found Hernandez lacking on at least one of the goals scored against us.

    I'm thinking it is time for Opara to get a few starts. He is great in the air and will only get better. Also would help to start seeing him get more recognition from the national team.

    Would love to see the Opara /MacDonald partnership flourish!
     

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