Should MLS bring its Goals Per Match in line with the NHL?

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Dave70, Mar 30, 2011.

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  1. Dave70

    Dave70 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    Reading the Sports Page this morning I looked at last night's NHL scores. Game scores were: 3-2; 5-4; 3-2; 3-2; 4-3; 5-2; 3-0; 3-1; 5-2; 3-1; 2-0; 3-1; & 3-2. Would it benefit MLS if they could bring their goals per match up to the level of the NHL. I believe now that the NHL averages 5.5 goals per game where MLS averages about 2.5 goals.

    I hear people on this discussion board who believe that MLS will pass the NHL in popularity. I do not think so. Would it help if they added the excitement of the three more goals per game that the NHL provides?

    I know they are not the same game. But they have the same principle. Put the ball(puck) in a net defended by a goalkeeper.
     
  2. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go away
     
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  3. Fort York Redcoat

    May 29, 2008
    Toronto
    Why not Basketball?

    When the SPL makes the net bigger then maybe we should consider it.

    For the time being I don't mind how the sport and league are growing.
     
  4. javier66

    javier66 Member

    Jul 10, 2005
    Mission, TX
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hell why not just make the goals bigger and play with a smaller ball. C'mon dude, really? :rolleyes:
     
  5. guitarob

    guitarob Member

    Jun 14, 2010
    Valencia, VE
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I think this is not a crazy idea, I have already though about it several times, and I think it would make the game much more exiting

    Is that actually true?
     
  6. krudmonk

    krudmonk Member+

    Mar 7, 2007
    S.J. Sonora
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    yellow card: 2 minutes in the box
     
  7. guitarob

    guitarob Member

    Jun 14, 2010
    Valencia, VE
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I would go with 5 minutes, that would be awesome hahaha
     
  8. Dave70

    Dave70 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    I see that most of you disagree with the idea. The reason I suggested it was that MLS is competing with leagues such as the NHL for the entertainment dollar. And If the NHL provides more entertainment with more goals then MLS should also. MLS is a PROFESSIONAL league and if more goals would increase attendance and bring in more revenue maybe they should try it.

    Leagues like the EPL, Bundesliga, and Serie A, etc. do not have to compete with other major sports leagues like MLS does in the US with the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.
     
  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Goal keepers with out arms! That will bring the scoring up!
     
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  10. Toronto Red

    Toronto Red Member

    Jan 8, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    In all honesty mate, I think the debate about goals = excitement in soccer are long gone. The game does not need goals to be exciting and tense. One goal games are often the best. It's a true commitment to attacking soccer that makes games exciting. If you can get more goals then great but 5-0 does not an entertaining game make.

    I was at the Leafs Buffalo game last night and it was entertaining enough cause the game was close. Not because it was 4-3. Close hockey games, cause of the ability to remove the goalie in the dying seconds, makes for good drama. I've been to Hockey games that are 5 or 6 to nothing that are boring as hell.

    i think the scoring debate is long gone. Bunkering is another topic.
     
  11. canyonvue

    canyonvue Member

    Sep 1, 2010
    Salt Lake City
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    One of the reasons I like soccer is the low-scoring aspect of it. Basketball is really boring. All they do is run from basket to basket making shots. I watched a basketball game recently and the baskets weren't at all exciting to see happen. Maybe how they were delivered, but the point of soccer is the excitement of actually getting a ball in the net.

    The game would be more exciting if the play in between the goals scored was interesting and exciting, and that depends on the team. Watch an RSL game. It was just as fun to watch RSL playing LA in the midfield as it was for them to score.
     
  12. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually, the blue card would be 2-minutes in the box.

    Some other foods for thought:
    - Pink card for divers.
    - Count down clocks!
    - Shoot outs!
    - No more offside rule.
    - Play the game in 3 30-minute periods.
    - Allow for timeouts.
    - Goals scored from outside the penalty area count as 3 points.
    - Any shots above the crossbar (and between the vertical posts) count as 2 points.​
     
  13. roboatse

    roboatse Member

    Oct 4, 2010
    seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    And let the players use their hands!
     
  14. guitarob

    guitarob Member

    Jun 14, 2010
    Valencia, VE
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yeah, but whats more exiting a 1-0 close game or a 5-4 close game with teams answering the other teams goals?

    And also, a 1-0 is not always exiting, and a 5-0 hockey game is probably less boring that a 0-0 draw with poor playing
     
  15. Dave70

    Dave70 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    It seems that most responders on this board are anti-scoring. Basically what you are saying is that 2.5 goals per game is what is best for soccer and MLS. Any higher goals per game would hurt the game.

    I can't see how a 4-3 match is worst than a 2-1 or 1-0 game if both teams are playing full out to win. Just that the 4-3 match had more goals.

    Clue me in, why do goals hurt the game? I think that they just add to the entertainment value of the match.
     
  16. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NHL levels, no. 5.5 gpg would be way too high. It would take away from the passion of soccer by making goals too common. Remember, if 5.5 was the average, there'd be a number of 6-3 type games to make up for the 2-1s. And a 6-3 soccer game would kinda suck if they happened twice a month in a league instead of twice a season.

    But for the rest of you clowns...soccer became the world's game almost a century ago when scoring was much higher than it is today. The level of scoring you think is normal is NOT, it's low by historical standards. I would prefer it if soccer went from, say, 2.5 gpg to 3.25-3.5 gpg. I'll bet you could do it just by getting rid of defensive refereeing. (That's refereeing that's biased toward the defense. Think about it...for every false negative offside call you see, you see, what, 3 or 4 false negatives? Getting those two numbers in line would boost scoring by a goal every 3 or 4 games. Then have referees less reluctant to give 2nd yellows and less reluctant to give PKs, and in my view you'd easily be over 3 gpg.)
     
  17. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Clue you in?
    OK, Riddle me this batman;
    If soccer is boring because it is low scoring and that has an impact on how popular it is, how is it that it is the most popular sport in the World?
    Why was the last World cup watched by record numbers of Americans?
    Most of all why was Donovan's last gasp goal so celebrated when it was the only goal after 90 minutes of scoreless play?
     
  18. Dave70

    Dave70 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    I realize the world wide popularity of soccer. But soccer in England, Brazil, Italy, etc. etc. does not have to compete with the other major professional leagues that MLS has to compete against here in the USA (NFL, NBA, MLB).

    MLS here in the US needs to add to the entertainment value of its product maybe more than soccer leagues throughout Europe. If an extra goal or two adds entertainment without distracting from the game, what does it hurt? I do not believe that the extra goals per game hurts the NHL.
     
  19. Allez RSL

    Allez RSL Member+

    Jun 20, 2007
    Home
    Adding another goal per game isn't going to increase the perceived "entertainment value" of soccer.

    And to get the goals per game up to NHL levels, you'd have to do some potentially substantial tweaking of the rules. MLS already tried that, and received a less than enthusiastic response from fans.
     
  20. Somas of Columbus

    Somas of Columbus New Member

    Jan 22, 2008
    Washington DC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    You don't think there are other sports "soccer" has to compete with around the world? Granted "soccer" is the NFL of the sporting world but cricket, f1, rugby, basketball, hockey ect...have a share in the world market as well.
     
  21. Dave70

    Dave70 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    What you said is true, soccer is already "Top Dog" throughout Europe and S. America (basketball, rugby, etc. are strictly minor league). However, soccer is at best #6 hear in the US. The NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, and even NASCAR are far more popular than MLS at this time.

    Right now MLS uses mainly promotions to increase attendance (poster nite, bring a friend nite, etc.). What they need to do is make the game more entertaining for the average sports fan thereby creating true followers of the game.
     
  22. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    How do you do that?

    I don't know about you, but MLS is a VERY entertaining league to me... one thing is to watch Manchester vs arsenal in EPL, but Wigan - Birmingham is another thing. I do find the average MLS more enjoyable than some games from more established leagues.
     
  23. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    You're missing the point completely - the entertainment value and excitement in soccer is not built around how many goals are scored, it is built around how difficult it is to score a goal.
    Ever heard the phrase, "Less is more"?

    You either get it or you don't and if you don't then soccer is not the sport for you. Find a high scoring game that is more to your tastes.
     
  24. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you like high goal scoring, watch indoor soccer.
     
  25. Dave70

    Dave70 Member

    Jul 15, 2010
    Club:
    Hibernian FC
    I'm sorry, I am not missing the point.

    If it is built on how difficult it is to score why not make it even harder. Why not go back to the original offside rule where you had to have three players (instead of todays two) between you and the goal when the ball is played. That should reduce the goals per game to less than two. Why was the original rule changed other than to give the attacking side a better chance of scoring? I am quite sure you were against that rule change when it was implemented.

    I would like to see soccer become more than a niche sport in this country and I believe an increase in scoring while not being the complete answer would help the game.
     

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