Revs Current Roster - A work in progress

Again: Only $400k ($500k?) of the Dempsey money was available for player-related things.

I'm willing to bet that if any is left, it is the OTHER portion of that money. BUT, we don't know, to be honest.

 

Frank Dell'Apa and others have said numerous times this off season that the "Depmsey Money" could be used to pay down the cap hit or DP effect or pay the transfer fee (along with allocation money and the Revs own operating money) for any of the big-time players they have talked about signing this off-season. It isn't the only resource, but it is a resource.

Yes, it isn't clear exactly how much there is, but it must be there if he keeps mentioning it. If it was just an "oops, I forgot" moment, it would not be coming up in the papers so often.

 

Exactly. If FDA said so, it must be so.

 

Shouldn't that have a or a ?

 

I still think it's all smoke and mirror accounting just like we are constantly getting out of Washington. Anyway, thanks for the "authoritative reference" which make the whole matter factually clear

 

Youze guys wouldn't be whistling this tune if he was saying something that supports the Kool-Aid Agenda, that's for sure. He may get things wrong sometimes, sure, but he's written this about 4-5 times at least. I even sent him an e-mail, asking him exactly how they could still have this money around after so many years. He said that Jonathan Kraft himself told him that they "might" or "could" (I forget which) use this money on a new player.

If you want to play the game of "how can we trust anything anyone says" and never believe what should be a reasonably credible source just because it doesn't line up with your view, I don't know what to tell you....

 

Did John-boy check the MLS rules that say you can only spend $500K on a new player or with his accounting system to see if they already spent that $500K on Badilla? Just Joking

 

I was actually seriously questioning whether that comment [about "If FDA said so, it must be so"] was serious or sarcastic - it sounds like it's sarcastic, but no rolleyes, so who knows.

FDA is generally very credible (although it's sometimes hard to tell when factual reporting ends and his opinion/speculation begins).

AFAIC, all the allocation money goes into a big account, so maybe they technically used "other" allocation money for other stuff, while holding onto the "Dempsey" money.

Does it really matter? They've used allocation money for some things, and clearly still have some of it available. Should they have used it all before this season? In general, I don't think so, because they were pretty cap-tied last year and handcuffed by the uncertainty around Twellman's future.

 

Tom,

I'm not challenging anything that Little Frank writes or the words he reports coming from Little John. What I am suggesting is the rules in MLS seem to be made of Jello and how anyone can be sure what anyone is saying is factual---at any given moment is a real crap shoot.

I remember what the rule---was--when Dempsey was transferred---ie, a $500K limitation in using it for allocations. I think the conventional wisdom at the time we brought in Badilla was we payed a transfer fee from the "Dempsey Money". How much of the $500K allocation allowance is left? Is the rule still the same?

Bottom Line for me is with the lack of transparency in MLS fiscal inner working and the constant shifting of rules---who the hell knows what's true here!!!!!. Fact is people keep talking like we have a pot of gold from the Dempsey transfer still sitting around unused.

My take is #3,500K has gone towards general team oriented expenses and some of the allocation $500K was used on Badilla. How much of that is left? Maybe there is some but it sure as hell isn't enough to pay the major transfer fee amounts being conjectured in this case

 

Not at all, Doc, I would agree with your general assessment, although I didn't get that far down into the weeds. When I first read the "Dempsey money" comment, I was surprised because I knew that 1) the sale only provided a limited percent available for player acquisition, 2) it was a few years ago, 3) we've signed players (Castro, Badilla, etc.) where you might think the money was being used. That's why I asked.

Now if Jon Kraft said this, it could be a couple of different things: 1) he has no idea what he's talking about (somewhat understandable, since he rarely gets involved with player-specific decisions) or it was a case of misspeakitude, rather than untruthtitude, where he really meant to say something more general, like that they are willing to spend money on transfer fees. He could have meant something like the "you suck" allocation money they got this off-season or whatever other funds they have available.

Anyway, let's hope they can use whatever money they have set aside to sign this Danish striker this week...

 

I'm with you. I only went "into the weeds" because the Dempsey Money is invoked again and again when there is a discussion about tweaking the roster and it appears to me that this is really using the same money over and over but it's likely already been spent (AKA Like the double, triple speak out of Washington)

 

...just reinforcing this, I would have sworn reading that the Dempsey was used in setting up the academy program back a few years ago...

wherever they are getting it, good on them for trying to fill a need from outside the usual channels (whatever the ultimate outcome)... at least it does not appear to be the usual "project" or broken down retread...

...will his style fit in?... I guess that is something that we are going to find out and Stevie Nix is going to have to make work...

 

I believe this is correct. To the best of my knowledge, Fernandez is the only player the Revs have paid a transfer fee for.

 

Well, who knows? The thing is, it definitely does not help in spin doctoring if you are talking about spending money that you received in 2006 for a player 4 years later. If JK thought it would help the perception, it shows just how out of touch he is.

Yes, most of the transfer fee had to be spent on other things, and the Academy seemed to be a logical place. Of course, we remember the now-laughable quote from Garber at the time that if the league let the Revs spend the whole thing on buying/signing/paying down the cap (or whatever else the rules might have permitted) that they would have such an "unfair advantage" and create a dynasty.

Even still, they had some money to spend, and given the departures since 2006 and the obvious needs to fill holes in the roster, it is nothing short of appalling if they had been sitting on it all this time. I hope they got good interest on it, and that the interest goes into the "Revs fund" instead of buying another box of those ugly shirts with the white collars.

 

Psycho and Shill, are now Psycho Killer! New Fort song, like the Talking Heads song?....

Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est! Fa, fa, fa, fa..... fa, fa, fa, fa, fa,fa....

Psycho Killer... WTF!!!

 

This is not my beautiful stadium!! This is not my beautiful striker..!!!

 

And you may ask yourself... how did I get here?

 

As to the Revs retooling this offseason:
so far I give the:
A for effort
B for execution
C for timeliness
Grade for successfulness--TBD

 

as with anything, the only grade that matters is at the end.

 

Route 3 North to Route 44 West, then 495 North to Route 1. Stadium is on the right.