Seol Ki Hyeon possibly to Southhampton!!

Discussion in 'Korea' started by K_19, Mar 10, 2004.

  1. K_19

    K_19 New Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Toronto, ON, Canada
    http://sports.chosun.com/news/news.htm?name=/news/sports/200403/20040311/43k82002.htm

    Now, sportschosun isn't the most reliable source in the world, but remember that they were the first one to publish way back then that Lee Chun Soo was about to sign with Sociedad, and they were right about that. Let's hope this one is true as well. Should the deal happen, Seol will be the first Korean player to play in the Premiership!
     
  2. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    Competition for a place in the lineup will be very fierce there with James Beattie and all. For a guy who's not scoring enough for Anderlecht, a step to the Premiership is very very ambitious.

    Also let's hope there's at least some truth in the rumour. Also let's hope Southampton don't pull off a Spurs. i.e. link themselves with any player that's on form and release articles about it then go quiet as if it never happened... then sign some unknown eastern European who they find out is more overrated than sliced bread.
     
  3. Soju Gorae

    Soju Gorae New Member

    The English Premier League would be a compatible league for Seol. He's a great hustler, plays best when the tempo is high, good work-rate, and is physically strong for a medium framed striker.

    But all of this seem too familiar as the Saints have been linked with Ahn Jung Hwan and Lee Chun Soo way back. So I'm not holding my breath.
     
  4. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Of course for Ki Hyeon and the Koreans, a move to the English Premiership would be very good for his experience.

    But i really doubt it at this point, Ki Hyeon's name is still one of the more underrated/unknown names in the football world. Maybe a move to a level higher that that messed up Belgium league, maybe like Holland, or Germany, or even Scotland (CELTICS!!!). He needs to go to a league with a higher level of compeition before going to EPL.
     
  5. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    so ur saying anderlecht -> ONE MORE LEAGUE -> THEN EPL??

    i understand that seol is young enough and have the time to go through all that process, but ANDERLECHT is already a pretty much high class team that can prepare seol to play for a "mid-classed" EPL team..
     
  6. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Anderlecht might be one of the better football club in europe, no doubt, but Belgium league in my opinion is as weak as Major League Soccer, Belgium league is just poor. I rather see Ki Hyeon playing for a mid-level English football club than playign in Anderlecht because atleast Ki Hyeon gets to play against much better competition daily.
     
  7. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    jupiler league is as weak as MLS? u are so tripping.

    do u even follow belgium soccer?

    cuz it really seems like u dont.

    belgium league games have one of the fastest tempo of the game then any other european league along with epl, eredivisie, and etc.

    and its true that Belgium Leagues got some weak teams but thats basically the same for most of the league including la liga, epl, eredivisie, and etc.

    plus belgian teams like Anderlecht, Genk and etc have teams that are just as compeitive as any other respected european teams in their leagues..
     
  8. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    Belgian league = MLS?? What insult.
    The Belgian league has a long history, has its fair share of good talents and the big teams of Club Brugges and RSC Anderlecht are good teams that can rub shoulders against the upper mid table teams in England. Do not under estimate those teams.
    Have you even watched Belgian league matches?
    But as for Seol being underrated, I think he still needs to establish himself. He's not scoring enough as an Anderlecht player against teams he should be scoring away with ease with.
    Sure, he's had his injury problems, but he has to prove himself a more consistent scorer.
     
  9. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Atleast US league is a bit more of a balanced league. Belgium got Anderlecht and couple more juggernauts in that league, but if you look at the lower teams in that league, there team's talent is thinner than a line. Those lower teams are a joke, period.

    And yes that's what i meant. I think Ki Hyeon should go play on a league a bit higher than Belgium before going off to EPL. Something like the Spanish league or the Italy league.
     
  10. CL39

    CL39 New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I recently attended Club Brugge-Anderlecht and Anderlecht-Charleroi.
    Great atmosphere. Pretty good quality football. I enjoyed that.
    Too bad Seol was injured, would have been great to have watched him in person.
     
  11. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    Spanish or Italian league?
    Seol will NEVER make it there, not at this stage anyways! The upper half of the Belgian league is good, but yeah I agree at the lower end its pretty bad. As for the MLS being more even, that's because they're generally evenly crap. Except DC United pulls off some surprise results from time to time.
     
  12. Almogavar92

    Almogavar92 New Member

    Aug 17, 2001
    USA
    Club:
    Galatasaray SK
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Sounds like you don't watch the MLS. It's been a while since DC United pulled off a surprise and you might be saying this in anticipation of Freddy Adu. I'm not a big supporter of MLS even though it's literally in my backyard. But a lot of those American players that made it to the quarter-finals (without home advantage behind them) in 2002 ply their trade in the MLS (of course with the exception of those goalkeepers who are all from the Premiership). While I give Belgium's Jupiler League an upper hand simply because its clubs can regularly test themselves against quality opposition in Europe, the absence of a Belgian club in a major European final since 1993 (when Royal Antwerp lost to Parma in the now defunct Cup Winners' Cup) is testament to the relative weakness of the league.

    Should Seol move if he has a chance. Absolutely. Opportunities might not present themselves in the future so if a club like the Saints wanted Seol, I say go for it. He would be surrounded by quality players like James Beattie (provided he's there next season) and Kevin Phillips.. and if that gives him competition for a place, at least he'd learn to finish with quality strikes which could benefit the national team (especially since finishing is one skill that has been shamed by the likes of Choi Young Soo and other incompetent strikers).
     
  13. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    i would love to see Seol Ki Hyeon wearing green and white in Scotland (CELTICS) but that league is not much of a competition. Kind of a bold statement saying Ki Hyeon will never play in Spain or Italy. But if he does, he's definitley going to get competition.

    I too like almo live in Queens, NY. (FLUSHING BABY!) and i watch MLS occasionally. MLS is not that great obviously, but it's not AS bad as people think it is.


    Maybe Ki Hyeon should sign with a English 1st Division team that is about to get promoted to premiership, i mean that english club would imo want Seol Ki Hyeon. Hey the team might be poor in talent but atleast plays Arsenal, Chelsea, Man UTD., twice each a year.
     
  14. Chachi King

    Chachi King New Member

    Mar 14, 2002

    Ugggggh toohyper

    It's Celtic NOT Celtics like the NBA team.

    And where the hell do you get the idea that Spain or Italy is a "stepping stone" league for the Premiership (one of your earlier posts)?
     
  15. GuruSky

    GuruSky Member

    Jan 7, 2004
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    spain or italy before epl??

    if seol ever make it to serie-a or la liga, then there shouldnt even be a reason for him to set a goal about going to epl..

    serie-a and la liga are just as competitive as epl or maybe even a tougher league to play in..

    i dont wanna talk crap about mls, but jupiler is way ahead of mls, period.
     
  16. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    calm down, i spell a lot of things with S, like Real Madrids, Manchester Uniteds...just a bad habit of mine...

    I'm not saying MLS is close or in the same talent level as Belgium league, but atleast MLS is a much more balanced league....

    Maybe you're right bout you don't have to go to EPL if u get to Spains or Italy, but IMO i think EPL is a level higher than these leagues, everyone got different opinions of a league....I would love to see Ki HYeon facing the likes of John Terry, Ferdinand, Campbell,,,,
     
  17. Bizz

    Bizz Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Needham, MA
    While I think EPL is exciting to watch, the skill level isn't nearly as good as the spanish or italian leagues. While he is talented, he lacks consistency in his finishing. I think Seol would have a tough time getting playing time at an upper table club in the "first rate" leagues.
     
  18. Bizz

    Bizz Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Needham, MA
    Actually, MLS has improved a lot in the last couple of years in the quality of its play. There are still some stretches where the play is just horrific, and the pace is a bit slower than other leagues, but the quality of the players, the playmaking, the goalkeeping, etc. has improved dramatically. It's not close to a top-tier European league, but there are definitely some pretty good players, and some pretty good games.

    I thought the MLS playoffs last year were actually quite good. It's just the meaninglessness of much of the regular season that is a challenge to watch at times. They need to fix that.

    As for Seol, I am not sure if he would be dominating at MLS for that matter, let alone EPL.
     
  19. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    I admit it's been a while
    What I meant about the occasional surprises was that CONCACAF club competition where they won it once and also they beat Spurs twice in exhibition matches.

     
  20. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    The Scottish league is a dead league. Seol should not go there. I am all in favor of him moving to a mid table Premiership side though. I believe he's got the ability to make it there. You don't want to be on a too weak of a side either... sometimes they're just too weak to be any good.

     
  21. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    I think the Spanish league is definately a higher quality league than the EPL in terms of talent and ability. In Italy, only AC Milan I think fits into that category and the rest of Italian club football isn't very convincing at all. First of all it's MIND NUMBINGLY boring. I've had more fun watching a few MLS matches than even watching Italian League highlights.
    The Italian league may have been one of the greats but it's sunk pretty low lately.

     
  22. toohyper

    toohyper Member+

    Mar 23, 2004
    MI/NJ/NY
    Club:
    Gwangju FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I dunno, i mean Real Madrids can beat Arsenal imo, i think EPL teams got more talent than Spanish Premier. Seriously, i take Man UTd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle over Valencia, some might find it as a crazy statement but i really would.

    MLS imo gotten much better over the last 2 years, Landon Donovan is still in the league, Freddy Edu ain't no savior but definitley going to improve MLS, with US GKs going to Europe to play, u could expect few GKs to be good in MLS (Meola, Brown...). Hey, even our favorite koreanboy Hong plays for LA Galaxy. ALL MLS needs is Real Soccer Stadiums (Not using those horrible American Football stadiums) than i think MLS is in business, but of course u need the money and fan interest to build those and MLS dont exactly have that.
     
  23. CL39

    CL39 New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Los Angeles
    I think one of my friends (he's English, MU supporter) put it best "watching Serie A is like watching a funeral".
     
  24. the_13th_redneck

    the_13th_redneck BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Sep 3, 2002
    It's no lie. It's terribly boring.
    In terms of entertainment quality, I think the EPL really is the best. It's superb, beautiful attacking football at its best. The only real football villain is Gerard Houllier and his boring football moments! But even he was a part in delivering the best ever European Cup final in recent memory.. that UEFA Cup final between Liverpool and Alaves. 5-4! What a match that was! And it was superb surprise because lots of us were expecting a very dull affair after Mane (the Alaves manager at the time) said that if Houllier pulled his team back in the defensive displays they made during the earlier stages of the competition, so would he.
    I guess both sides wanted to make the most of their defensive statements by going on the attack and therefore gain some level of surprise. Funny thing is both sides were thinking it lol

     
  25. johlee_99

    johlee_99 New Member

    May 31, 2003
    Coppell, TX
    Yep, I'll have to agree with the EPL being the best overall, but for just sheer offensive prowess, you guys might want to flip the channel (if you have in your area or subscribe to satelites) to La Liga. When I watch La Liga games, they push, push, push the ball from defenders up.

    But overall, EPL does attract the most balanced play (players really, they got the most money for one thing) and is attractive for TV.

    As for the topic here of Seol moving to EPL. Hmmm... Well, haven't seen him much outside of the national team play and reports from here about his games, so I don't know. A co-worker from Holland who routinely follows Belgian football indicated that league is a good comparison to the English Division 2 sides. They have a couple of powerhouses then the rest of the teams are just points fodder. I think Seol might fit in the Division 1 teams like Sunderland or that equivalent.
     

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