Real Madrid vs Olympique Lyonnais | UEFA Champions League First KO Round - 2nd Leg|3.16.11[R]

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  1. RMCFkevin

    RMCFkevin Member+

    Nov 20, 2008
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    There are injury concerns for Cris, Gourcuff, and Cissokho. I don't think Cissokho will be healthy for the match but the other two will be
     
  2. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahrain
    I'm hoping the reason Mourinho subbed Granero on the weekend was because he wanted him fresh for this fixture. He's deserved the start I think.
     
  3. Crisstti

    Crisstti Member+

    May 29, 2010
    Chile
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think Gourcuff got suspended in the first leg... :confused:
     
  4. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2007
    In previous season Lyon always came to the Bernabeu with a win but this is not the case now, they are forced to come forward and attack, thus leaving space behind them for us to exploit.
     
  5. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2007
    I do not see how. He was not booked in our last match. Michel Bastos is the one who will miss the game.
     
  6. Crisstti

    Crisstti Member+

    May 29, 2010
    Chile
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Damn you're right, lol.
     
  7. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I am more concerned about Ronaldo's card situation. He is one card from suspension. I do not want to see Real Madrid in the Final without him.
     
  8. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think they'll look not to concede in the first half and then really go for it in the last 30 mins if the score remains 0-0. But we should be fine as long as we don't concede first even if the score remains 0-0 since they'll leave spaces towards the end looking for a goal like you said.
     
  9. Laaura

    Laaura Member+

    Apr 2, 2009
    Manchester
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    lol, woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't stop thinking about the Lyon match. Seriously, if we go out to them again idk what I'll do:mad:
     
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  10. La-Furia

    Jun 19, 2006
    New Zealand
    Club:
    Real Madrid
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  11. babai_here

    babai_here Member

    Aug 4, 2009
    Kolkata
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I personally want to start Arbeloa in place of Ramos and keep Marcelo at LB. Arbeloa is playing very consistent football atm. Marcelo and Ronaldo combo is also working for us. If Marcelo can't perform/we are leading by 2 goals, bring in Ramos in the 2nd half and put arbeload at LB.
     
  12. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    I think Benzema is a lock to start upfront, regardless of whether we start with one striker or two.

    The biggest question will be who will start alongside Alonso. I highly doubt that Mourinho will start with a three man midfield at home protecting a 1-1 tie. That's a very dangerous game to play.
     
  13. Donzizu

    Donzizu Member

    Nov 7, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    FK's can be very helpful to open the score against a defensively playing team, but i've a feeling
    (i don't have the stats or numbers) we are very poor in freekicks --> direct indirect goals,
    often we waste them as if we gone get a dozen chances more to try,
    e.g our last game Granero took 2 FK's , ofcourse he can claim the 1 FK but the second one ?
    seems to me that it was more suited for a left footer,

    for wednesday , expect as long as the score remains 0-0 Lyon will play defensively maybe until the 60-75 min,
    so i hope we score in the first half,
    coz with a 0-0 at the 75min weird things can happen when you have to play under pressure and stress,
    but ofcourse thats one of the worst case scenarios,
    the reality is, at home we always score at least ones,
    thus they've to score twice , .......well imo i don't see that happening.
    we gone enjoy this game :D
     
  14. A & K

    A & K New Member

    Mar 4, 2011
    I have got a feeling Benzema is going to score a brace against his former club
     
  15. Lockjaw

    Lockjaw BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 8, 2004
    Kaiserslautern
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is not in Real Madrid's DNA to park the bus and protect the lead. There will be goals.
     
  16. Don Nino El Dios

    Don Nino El Dios Proud to be White

    Mar 30, 2008
    La Casa Blanca
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Benzema, I think, will do well. As I have been saying, he seems to be a Champion's League performer, scoring in Milan for us last season, scoring hat-trick this season (against Auxerre, IIRC) and scoring in Lyon for us. He also was phenomenal in the competition as a Lyon player. Now he's starting to do very well in La Liga, but I'm especially confident in him during the CL.

    If Mourinho can figure out a very tactically secure defensive formation, I'm all for it. Getting through this round is what's important, not playing beautiful Football or showing the historic flair of Real Madrid. Going 7 years in a row at this stage is not good for us.

    I say we play a defensive formation, and use our very fast, talented and dangerous forwards/attacking mids to counter as Lyon must score. Our worst nightmare, obvoiusly, is an early Lyon goal.

    As much as I prefer to start Di Maria, I can also see the utility in bringing him off the bench later in the game, as Lyon's legs start to get tired. Di Maria should be able to wreak havoc then. However, his workrate is such that Mourinho might prefer that he plays the whole game. We'll see.

    I prefer Arbeloa at Right Back if I had to choose between him and Ramos. Actually, has anyone considered playing Ramos to the right of Xabi? I think he can be useful going forward and is obviously strong in defense, and would have the security of an in-form Arbeloa backing him up. Then again, I don't know what Ramos would add in that position that Lass and even Khedira couldn't. I also would like Marcelo at the left if possible, having him always adds another dimension to our attack. I think that can work, but I'll leave it to Mou. :D

    EDIT: Another option would be to have Marcelo to the left of Xabi, have Ramos at RB and Arbeloa at LB. Ah, decisions, decisions!
     
  17. EstebanGranero23

    Sep 25, 2005
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He did play in a similar role in his first season here for a few games.
     
  18. -Fifth CharM-

    -Fifth CharM- BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2007
    Sergio is already enough of a liability on the Right Back. We should not play him in a position where he would be a bigger liability for the team.
     
  19. Don Nino El Dios

    Don Nino El Dios Proud to be White

    Mar 30, 2008
    La Casa Blanca
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How'd it go, I don't remember... :eek:

    I know he is, that's why I'd prefer to play him closer to Lyon's goal in this situation. He likes to move up too much as it is. At least, in this case, if he tries to move forward, place a crappy cross, do the "not sure what to do stepover", or go for a shot, he won't leave a huge gap on the right since our boy Arbeloa will be there. That's all I'm saying, and since we'll most likely be starting him, it would make me feel much better if he'd not be part of our last line of defense.

    I'm not sure how him being in the Central Midfield alongside Alonso would make him a bigger liability? However, like I said before, I'm not so sure of what he'd bring to the table that Lass wouldn't. This suggestion is more of a "I know we're gonna start Ramos regardless since he's the World Cup winner and Floro's Golden Boy, but if we can keep him farther away from Casillas, I'd have less anxiety."

    However, Ramos, on his day, can be pretty decent hardman and defender. So maybe he would be an upgrade defensively to Lass or Khedira. Just maybe. :cool:

    *Keep in mind I'm not sold on this theory either, I'm just thinking aloud!*
     
  20. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Never thought I'd see the day where someone would say Ramos was a bigger liability defensively than Marcelo.
     
  21. mymy33

    mymy33 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 15, 2007
    This Sergio Ramos is a liability at RB is a bit off the mark IMO but you know how we love sweeping generalizations here :D
     
  22. Don Nino El Dios

    Don Nino El Dios Proud to be White

    Mar 30, 2008
    La Casa Blanca
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point it's definitely debatable!

    Marcelo has improved defensively and adds alot in attack, and Ramos is sometimes great defensively, and sometimes absolutely retarded, and adds very little offensively.

    For me, it's not so much of who's better in defense, but who's just better to start for us, with all things considered.

    Also, I'm saying all this expecting that Ramos is an automatic starter. If he isn't, then I wouldn't be totally against benching him, to be honest. I definitely prefer Arbeloa, and I'd rather see Marcelo out there as well.
     
  23. razingtonbear

    razingtonbear Member+

    Aug 8, 2007
    Marcelo hasn't improved defensively, the team around him simply allows him more freedom to attack while things are kept tighter at the back, than under Pellegrini. It's the same sort of thing as last season, where against 99% of teams it won't matter because we have the ball and can out score them (particularly last season), whereas this season we are defensively more sound so the team covers the position better.

    He's probably improved offensively, but not defensively, that is a team thing allowing him to be an attacker from a deeper position. He doesn't attack like a left back would, he has the freedom to express himself just about anywhere.
     
  24. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Ramos has been the most consistent defender for us this season. The knock on him is that he's hot-headed, but he's learned to control his temper a lot better. I'd take a wild guess and say the coach agrees as he has preferred to move Ramos to the center than to play Albiol or Garay on several occasions.
     
  25. Akramzizou

    Akramzizou Member+

    Feb 13, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I agree that he has a system that covers for the spaces that he leaves behind but saying he hasnt improved defensively is wide off the mark IMO. He is no Maldini but he hassles a lot better and his tackles are no longer foolish. He is as good as an attacking wingback can get defensively speaking.
     

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