I didn't like Confederacy of Dunces the first time. Then I read it when I was in graduate school at LSU. It somehow struck me as funny then, and I liked it. So all you have to do, TW, is go to LSU, take the book in the second-floor restroom of Allen Hall, and read about Ignatius having his stuff stolen from him while he was in the second floor restroom of Allen Hall. I think that's when I started to get into it. Regardless of how one feels about John Kennedy Toole, we can all agree that Metrogo has truly advanced scholarship concerning The Guardian. Moron Studies in general has benefitted from Metrogo's cross-cultural comparative approach. Putting the character of "The Guardian" next to Ignatius Reilly really illuminates the nature of stupidity.
Hmm... that's a good point. I wonder if there's some sort of degree to study? 'Stupidolgy' or similar?
Yes, and the advanced course: "Stoopidolgy, International Perspectives" and "cross-cultural Stoopidolgy, Comparative Study".
Sign me up In fact there have been some great 'village idiot' characters in fiction although, strangely enough, I wouldn't put this fella in that category because they often lack the sense of creative idiocy this guy has. To attain the level of total feck-wit this guy represents... that takes real genius
So can I take it we are all in agreement that it was an utter ********ing disgrace that Geerty was charged just to cow him and others from speaking out about the Islamist threat to Western Civilisation?
Look,the censor filters what you typed on here,but your Mom can still see it if she's looking over your shoulder. You just earned all those privileges back !Be careful!
I'm finding it quite weird that in the context of a Geert Wilders discussion you take offence to people being labelled as zionist jews. You do realise that that's a mild generalisation when compared to the generalisations that Wilders loves, I hope. And as I've told you before, calling Wilders zionist backed is factual. It's not a fabrication or even an interpretation of the fact. He is backed by organisations that call themselves zionist. Whether he's backed by jews or eskimos or buddhists or the totalitarian gay lobby is irrelevant to me. I just would like Dutch politicians to have Dutch interests as their priority, surely you can understand that. Wilders doesn't give that impression however. But I guess that's an anti-semite thing to say right, wanting a political leader to put his own country's interests first. FFS get over yourself. Not everything is about Israeli interests..
It's not bizarre at all, considering in much of Europe Jews were (and generally still are) considered an ethnicity. There's a reason why so many Jews look the same, you know - take centuries of no proselytization, social segregation and a culture/religion that's looked down upon by the surrounding majority and you have yourself an ethnicity. In the Soviet Union being Jewish was an ethnicity, and the infamous "line 5" was not removed from Russian passports until 1997 (it identified ethnicites, with anything but Russian meaning "undesirable"). Incidentally, given the history of Jews, there's really nothing "odd" about this - it's a natural result of a lack of integration over 2,000 years.
As always, you completely miss the point. There are thousands Zionist organizations. If two support Wilders, that doesn't make hima "Zionist supported" politician. He would be that if MOST Zionists supported him. Otherwise, Wilders would, conceivably, be a Zionist supported and opposed politician at the same time. Which, would be stupid if you think about it. (Seriously, please think.)
So a black person converting to the Jewish religion would have to change his/her race on the census form? Can you be blond blue eyed and still be in the Jewish race? How about a Ginger person? Are there any Aryan Jews? or Indian Jews (From India) would they be considered one race?
Yes, but what would their race be in a College Application? Black or Jewish? I guess black would get them the most financial help, then again saying Jewish could help then land a job interview Those lucky bastards! Also, if Jewish is a race, and a Jewish person converts to Islam you could end up with a Jewish Muslim, what if that person supports Israel based on his race, but he lives or was Born in Palestine. A Jewish Muslim Zionist Palestinian!
Fact remains that Wilders is supported by Zionist organisations. That you take offence to people (including me) calling him Zionist-backed, is just, well weird. Even weirder still is that that's the thing you take offence to in a discussion about Wilders. Again SURELY you will understand why I as a Dutch voter don't like any political leader to have any class of agenda outside of wanting the best for the Dutch. That's the essential thing here. That Wilders does not appear to have Dutch interests as his priority. How diverse zionist organisations are is of no relevance whatsoever to Dutch elections.
I do believe the Democratic Party receives money from what could be called Zionist Organizations. I bet many Evangelicals could be considered Zionists, I guess that both American Parties are Zionist-backed.
It just pisses me off that political parties get backed by foreign organisations full stop. No matter what religion or country they come from. It's just wrong. As if the Dutch electorate care about the situation in the Middle East when they cast their vote in the national elections..
I know a guy who is Jewish by ancestry (Jewish mother) but Muslim by religion. He converted in his teens. Identity is a complicated thing. I'm a bit of a mongrel myself.
There is most certainly not one Jewish ethnicity. One only needs to visit Israel to see for oneself. The German Jews are ethnically different from the Spanish Jews who are ethnically different from the Yemenite Jews who are ethnically different from the Russian Jews, etc. They even have different cultures and customs. What you are saying is similar to: "Malaysian Muslims and Persian Muslims and Arab Muslims and Slavic Muslims and Turkish Muslims, etc. are all the same ethnicity."
I've neither claimed Jews are a race nor that you have to be "ethnically Jewish" to be a member of the Jewish religion. If you want to convert, I'm sure a Rabbi would be willing. I'm not taking offense to anything, you dense troll. I'm trying to explain that just because two Zionist organizations back him does NOT him mean he's "Zionist-backed". That's not the same thing. What if he was opposed by 3 Zionist organizations. What would that make him? He'd still be backed by 2 Zionist organizations. The truth is, the vast majority of the world's Zionists (whatever that term even means anymore) neither give a flying ******** about Gert Wilders, nor care about who he is. Therefore, most of them don't support him and don't care or pay attention to Dutch politics. None of us do! Or, to put it another way, since you're struggling so badly, if three Persians eating a giant hamburger called themselves the "Legion of Persian Monitors" and declared their support of Wilders, would that make him "Iran-supported"? If you call Evangelicals "Zionists", then the word Zionist loses all meaning. Evangelicals want Jews to move to Israel to start the apocalypse. Theodore Herzl must have omitted that chapter. No. That's just hideously wrong. What I'm saying is that Malaysians from the United States and Malaysians from Malaysia are the same ethnicity. Can you have sub-groupings within that ethnicity? Sure you can. The fact that they have "different cultures and customs" (do you realize how incredibly foolish it is to bring that up in a discussion about ethnicity?) doesn't change that. Unless you're arguing that Germans aren't an ethnicity because some of them are Swiss Calvinists while others are Westphalian Lutherans. Also, comparing the question of religion and ethnicity in Jews and in Muslims is fundamentally useless, because Islam has not had an ethnic component since its expansion beyond the Arabian penninsula in the 600s. Proselytizing religions don't keep ethnicities. If they were at least clever about it. Instead, this thread is becoming the vortex of stupid.
Wow, you really are stupid, it's not just a language thing. And selfish too. Actually, I don't want american politicians to put american interests first, I want them to put the interest of making the world a better place first. You're the one who brought Israel into this conversation dear, not me. Your smearing of Zionist, claiming that the "zionist movement" is backing a Dutch politician in order to influence Dutch politics is beyond absurd and very typical of anti-semitism. Barack Obama traveled to Indonesia as president and was admired and supported by various Muslim organizations. Is Barack Obama a "muslim backed politician" not putting the interests of america first? Of course not. Racism is an ugly thing johan, whether it's dressed up in right wing or left wing rhetoric.
Mother Teresa is in our midst. Let me get this straight. Wilders is backed by zionist organisations. I call him zionist-backed. This makes me racist in your view. Sigh. So when I say my football club is backed by Tukkers, I'm also racist towards Tukkers? Not all Tukkers support Twente after all. Some of them support Heracles. Sigh. Like I said, you and Nicephoras need to get bloody over yourselves. This isn't even about zionism, or judaism. This is about the fact that a Dutch member of parliament in a position of relative power gets backed by foreign organisations. Which, by the way, goes a long way towards explaining why Wilders' PVV is not officially a political party but a one-man movement: it is illegal for political parties to be financially backed by foreign organisations. Of whatever ilk.
By the way, if you want to talk about political incorrectness, I'm not comfortable at all with judaism being labelled a race.
Pretty much everyone in this country is convinced that Wilders has ties with 'zionist' organizations. Afterall, he got his anti-muslim stance from his time in Israel rather than a walk through any predominantly muslim populated neighbourhood in the NL. Couple that with the fact that he has worked together with several dubious people before, and it's not all that far-fetched. Racism has nothing to do with that. Rather than discussing Johan's so-called racism, I'd say we ought to discuss your attempt to discredit someone by calling them anti-semite