Shalrie Joseph & Kevin Alston Sent Home From Orlando

Ah well, I'll just toss in a video:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CO7FPU7a2g"]YouTube - Dread Zeppelin - Immigrant Song[/ame]

It's been fun, guys.

 

Isn't there, like, a constitutional amendment mandating slow and painful death for linking to MLSTumors?

Anyway, pot and guns do in fact go together quite well.



As for Joseph, I suspect there's more going on than meets the eye:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfjtpp90lu8"]YouTube - Jamie Foxx featuring T-Pain - Blame It ft. T-Pain[/ame]

 

Shalrie speaks
By Brian O'Connell, New England Soccer Today
http://nesoccertoday.com/?p=3498

 

Why is some idiot posting soccer news in the pot debate thread?

 

There are many nice lines - here's one ...

 

Another snip-it:

http://nesoccertoday.com/?p=3498

"Joseph asserted that because Alston was already slated to be sent back to Boston to have his hamstring examined, he was unfairly targeted for dismissal from the team.


'He was coming home regardless (and) nobody knows that,'"

 

And yet that article tells us nothing about if the girls they were partying with were hot or not. Where's a serious journalist when you need one? Who's going to ask the tough questions that we all want to know?

 

Kyle McCarthy's version

So it's not Shalrie's fault for being at a party ntil 3 a.m. when they had a morning training session scheduled because:

a. The team didn't set a curfew
b. The guy was disrespectful to him during his presence at a party that police had to come to the hotel to break up.

Those bastards running the Revs actually punished the team captain for being at a loud party at 3 a.m. when they had training just a few hours later without even asking him for his side of the story. Man, that's just totally unfair.

 

Would you settle for a photo-journalist?

 

Joseph said "I acted appropriately in terms of the situation I was in," and who are we to argue?

 

I hardly think a team captain being out at 3 a.m. when there is morning training scheduled is acting appropriate. But that's just me. I'm crazy with ideas like setting a good example and actually leaving the scene of a party when asked to by police/management.

He can drag his cross all her wants to, but he put himself in this situation with at least one bad decision.

 

He's winning! He's high on Shalrie Joseph!

Unless Shalrie's "side of the story" is "that was my twin brother, Larry Joseph," it's hard to fault the Revs here.

 

And Shalrie is apparently crazy with the idea that when someone disrespects him (racially, at that), he doesn't slink away to his room.

I have no doubt that you would comply with the order to go to your room, and that's fine, but Shalrie apparently feels differently and I'm okay with that.

I agree he was out too late as an athlete, but that doesn't mean he is fair game as a human being.

 

Call me crazy, but I'm not just gonna take the word of the guy who was up at 3 a.m. when he should have been in bed. I won't just take the word of the cop though either. If he was "disrespected," maybe he needs to grow up. The whole notion of having to escalate things if you feel "disrespected" is juvenile and counterproductive. No one's life ended because someone was mean to them and they walked away without getting retribution. If there was a racial component to it, he certainly has avenues to pursue that kind of complaint other than bitching about it to the newspaper.

In the end, the captain of a professional soccer team was at a party at 3 a.m. when they had training the next morning. He was with a younger player who he's supposed to be setting an example for. There's no side of a story that really discredits the team's reasoning for sending him home based on that alone.

 

If that's what happened, particularly if he heard some racist b.s., I don't blame him for yelling back.

But I still think the team is in the right for saying, "3 a.m.? Seriously? Go home."

 

I think all of the things can be true:

1) Joseph shouldn't have been out partying late on a night before a morning turnout.

2) The team should have curfew rules if it wants to make that clear.

3) Joseph could have been angered by racist comments and yelled back.

4) The team could have talked to him before sending him home.

As people outside the events we don't really have to take a side, do we?

 

His quote doesn't ring true. 'If he ended up on the wrong side' of a yelling match having gotten arrested it means he was yelling a police, but he doesn't say that. If then the Police was condescending and tell you to do something. Guess what? You do it. To lead with 'kind of talking down to me'. Guess what Police do that. Its not a mutual respect kind of job. Then after he leads with that he says 'very racist'? Hmm Your impression or if he did or said something then you should have led with that. Not I didn't do anything or kind of talking down to me. Just because a white officer yells at you, tells you to do something, and is kinda condescending to you is it racist. That's what they do. That's what many people do. We all know what happened and you were at a party in a hotel room that got too loud, hotel staff calls Police who then tells everyone to leave. You didn't like it and yelled back and didn't move when the Police told you to and you get arrested. Then you act like a 12 yr old and claim 'I didn't do anything' Get over yourself you self absorbed Mr. the world revolves around me. Very immature on all accounts. I can see it happening but then the next day realization should have kicked in for you to say. I shouldn't have been out at 3am and not yelled at Police. It is what it is and I'll learn from it and we'll all move on. But no..........


"The situation is that I didn't do anything. Somebody yelled at me in a voice I didn't like, the way I was being talked to. He was kind of talking down to me and he was being very racist. I talked back to him and we got into a yelling match. I ended up on the wrong side of it."

 

You just did.

 

I think that the only solution here is for the Revs to get rid of Shalrie Joseph as soon as possible. In no way should they put up his repeated shenanigans. Joseph has gone too far this time. The well has been poisoned, the fields sown with salt. I think that they should make an example of him and show the world that they won't take it lying down. Shalrie Joseph has to go.




And by 'has to go', I mean 'has to go to San Jose'. I'm sure we can find something to make the trade equitable, like a partial allocation. Or you can just think of him as a 'player to be named later' in the Jeff Baicher trade.

 

Am I the only American who finds the "when the police say jump, you ask how high" attitude un-American? Are we content with our police state? I know I'm not the only person who's run afoul of a bully with a badge. Are we just cool with that now?

I can feel the neg-rep coming, like a gentle, soothing rain.

 

Given some of his flippant remarks after coming back from the drug suspension, he is just starting to seem like a guy who refuses to be accountable for his mistakes.

 

Police State? Go ahead and mouth back everytime a cop tells you to do something and see where it gets you. Its just the way life is. It's also the law if that warrants anything.
If you are in a hotel at 3am sipping some brews and someone who wants to get to bed calls the Police and the Police rudely tells you to clear the room, you think its responsible, logical, smart, and mature to start yelling at him that you weren't doing anything wrong and try to convince him that you can stay?
How old are you. I hope when sitting in jail you and Shalrie will have a lucid thought and realize 'I could have handled that better' or 'I should have just kept my mouth shut and just left.' Use your indignation for real injustice and not some pseudo outrage for getting your feelings hurt by someone with cuffs, a badge and a gun. Now how smart is that. This just in. Cops can be jerks,its not illegal and they're not impinging on your rights. People will be rude to you and no you don't have to fight them.

 

So the answer to his question is "yes?"

 

Here comes your rep, and its positive. I made the same point on a thread in the Revs Board, and someone quoted me Colonel Sherman T Potter on obeying authority, I fired back with Gandhi, Thoreau and MLK, then someone played the Bible Card (which either side can use, depending on the passage).

Long and short, a BS poll would find a split (70/30, I'm guessing) between people who say Obey and people who say Resist. And both sides think they are being patriotic. You and I are in the minority camp, but as a consolation, we have Shalrie on our side.