Rumor: 2011 Offseason Near News and Rumor Thread

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by Q*bert Jones III, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Saw first advertisement in the Express this AM.

    DCU is referring to Benny as "The General" dont know if I like that nickname for him.
     
  2. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Join Olsen's Army is on page 18.
     
  3. sysco76

    sysco76 Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Potomac Falls
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutley agree with you. For me Tino did not cut it when he played at CM or ACM.

    I really like Boloni86 starting line up.
     
  4. Black.White&Red

    Sep 9, 2009
    Club:
    DC United
    Now we now how Ben named his son Oscar, Oscar gave up his nickname of Generalissimo! :D
     
  5. DCUSKINS

    DCUSKINS Member

    May 26, 2008
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know it's been asked before but shouldn't the full season schedule be out by now? I want to know when I can go to Chicago to see United play.
     
  6. greekchampion04

    greekchampion04 Member+

    Apr 2, 2006
    Richmond, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it was supposed to be today... but as goff says "zzzzzzzzz"

    wait and see i guess...
     
  7. tmas

    tmas Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    From this morning's 'Kick-Off' on MLSsoccer.
     
    2 people repped this.
  8. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Wonder who we will try for, anybody have anymore info on the other two besides Arnoux
     
  9. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    Agorsor is a forward and was the 2008 Gatorade High School Player of the Year. Went to Virginia, had some injuries, and then went pro. He's currently training with Philly, so I would think they would be most interested in him. However, that UVA connection could be pretty strong for Benny.

    Veeder is a U20 (?) right back that was with CP Baltimore. Given our seeming move to have Brasesco as a CB, Veedor could be an option for RB (or Zayner could claim it himself). He's also in our backyard, so the FO should know quite a bit about him.

    I would rather get Arnoux, but any of these players would be a decent depth pick-up and a move for a talented youngster with some pro experience.
     
  10. voyager

    voyager Member

    Jun 10, 2004
    Frederick, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Argorsor injuries scare me a little, but I would love to see his potential reached in a DCU uniform.
     
  11. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
  12. DCU

    DCU Member

    Feb 15, 1999
    Bay Area, CA
    Agreed. All 3 play at positions where DC needs depth (forward and outside back).
     
  13. BigKris

    BigKris Member

    Jan 17, 2005
    Falls Church, VA
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but we'll "try for" all three, right? I know we held ourselves out of an earlier lottery, but my assumption is that it's not that you have to pick only one lottery to enter, but rather that if you happen to *win* one of these lotteries, you are then subsequently excluded from the remaining ones. By that theory, then, we bowed out of the last one because getting another young, unproven GK wasn't worth losing our place in the Arnoux stakes.

    If I'm right, then this is very promising; we should have the best odds in each of these three lotteries (until/unless we win one).
     
  14. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this is correct, except for one thing I'm not sure of: I don't know whether you're *excluded* from subsequent lotteries that year, or just drop to the bottom of the probability list (that is, you have the lowest weight in the next lottery).
     
  15. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    You drop if you don't win the player.

    Thusly, if United get pipped for Arnoux, they will have the best odds for Argosor and also for Veeder should United crap out (or pass) on Argosor.

    United will pick up a good player out of any of those 3..
     
  16. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That doesn't make sense. Why would your chances of winning the next one drop if you *don't* win this one?

    I think there's a semantic issue of some kind here, because this statement (which is correct) seems in contradiction to your previous statement; and neither answers the question I was getting at. Or maybe that "don't" was superfluous?

    Let me put it another way: suppose DC wins the lottery for Arnoux. Is DC ineligible for the next lottery (presumably for Agorsor)? Or is DC eligible, but with the lowest chance of winning of all the teams in the lottery? Kris seemed to me to be saying the first; I think the second is right, but I'm not sure.
     
  17. dozerman

    dozerman Member

    D.C. United
    United States
    Dec 5, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    99% certain that you are out of the next lottery after you win one. IE San Jose will not be able to participate in the lottery for Arnoux and if we were to win that lottery we would not participate in on for Agorsor. This resets at the end of each season (based of course on how terrible you were).
     
  18. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My reading of the "rules" is that once you win a lottery, you are ineligible for any future lotteries during the year.
    I suppose this is to discourage teams who sucked last year from picking up players they don't want just to hold them hostage to teams who do want them.
     
  19. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Maybe he means the odds drop, so you go from 5-1 chance down to 4-1.
     
  20. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh, I would never refer to that as your odds dropping. The number in the front goes down, yes; but "odds" = "chances", and they increase there. But anyway, it's semantics, and I suspect we're all on the same page.
     
  21. mler1019

    mler1019 New Member

    May 15, 2010
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rank the three in order of who you'd like on our team
     
  22. StagsUnited72

    StagsUnited72 Member

    Sep 23, 2004
    Silver Spring, MD
    Bootsy, Ives mentioned early on his site the following: "San Jose is not included in any of the three lotteries after winning the lottery for University of California goalkeeper David Bingham about two weeks ago."

    Based on that, if DC stays in the Arnoux lottery and wins, DC would be out of the next two lotteries and probably any other lottery the rest of the season.
     
  23. DCUroma

    DCUroma Member+

    Jul 20, 2009
    Suck it Sensi
    Club:
    AS Roma
    The teams that are in for Arnoux should have been announced anyboyd have a list?
     
  24. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh. Interesting, thanks.

    I wonder what they'd do if more players than teams came back for lotteries. I guess that's way too unlikely for them to consider.
     
  25. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Short odds usually means 50/50 chance
     

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