Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues, groups and discussion

Discussion in 'Gold Cup' started by ATLfirefan, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. RJD22

    RJD22 Member

    Feb 1, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Where did you hear this at? Link Please??
     
  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Soccer by ives has it
     
  3. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  4. mavericks67

    mavericks67 Member

    Jun 11, 2009
    Club:
    Alianza FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Will the tickets go on sell before the group draw?

    >UNO<
     
  5. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    What?
     
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Last time, Cuba withdrew.
     
  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??


    I have no idea if that is playing a factor in the decision. Haven't seen anything along those lines.
     
  9. Gwadaboyz 72

    Gwadaboyz 72 Member

    Jun 27, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    It's certainly an obsession for usafan:) Why poeple want Cuba withdraw every time?
     
  10. Azuran

    Azuran Member

    Nov 15, 2006
    Toronto, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Because it would be more awesome to see Antigua and Barbuda on this.
     
  11. MRschizoid21

    MRschizoid21 Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    nobody wants them to withdraw, but they always have some interesting things happen when it's time to come to USA.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    That's happened ever since 2008 Olympic qualifying, when a portion of their players defected in the middle of the competition.
     
  13. Soccerfever

    Soccerfever Member

    Aug 30, 2001
    Laval(Canada)
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    That's CONCACAF for you right there... :rolleyes:
     
  14. zenryan

    zenryan Member

    Jun 23, 2008
    Orlando,Fl
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??




    I sat behind one of the goals during the USA-Cuba Olympic Qualifier and the Cuban goalie spent a lot of time in the second half talking to some people in the stands.

    Of course he was one of the few who left.
     
  15. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Funny that they have brought their baseball team twice to the states, and the baseball team is far more important. Conversely, maybe that is why they keep coming.
     
  16. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Guess that makes sense. Rigging a draw takes more time and effort than simply drawing names out of a hat at random.
     
  17. Ecuakid1

    Ecuakid1 Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Club:
    Deportivo Cuenca
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Hey does anybody know why the Gold Cup does not have a "third place" match? The last 3 gold cups did not have it, i find it odd.:confused:
     
  18. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    It doesn't make money I guess.
     
  19. Ecuakid1

    Ecuakid1 Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Club:
    Deportivo Cuenca
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Wow i guess when Mexico ends up tied for third place they will reconsider this :rolleyes:
     
  20. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??


    First off, keep in mind that it was only a guess. To your other point though, Mexico has been in a third place match only three times in Concacaf history. 1969, 73, 91. In the Gold cup, only in 1991 did they go into the third place game. In the modern history of the US team, ie since 1990, they went twice. The last time the 3rd place game was held was when South American powerhouse teams like Brazil were invited to the tournament. Which is why the US was in the 3rd place game that year. In 2005, when they stopped the 3rd place match, Columbia and South Africa were the invitees. Not exactly big draws. The third place matchups would have been...

    Columbia-Honduras
    Canada-Guadeloupe
    Costa Rica- Honduras
     
  21. Ecuakid1

    Ecuakid1 Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Club:
    Deportivo Cuenca
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    Yea i get your point it would look bad if a 40,000 stadium looked more than half empty for a big tournament and they don't make money off the game. OR maybe Concacaf is just to lazy to put a 3rd place match
     
  22. PARS

    PARS Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    There's some truth in this. The idea (they have) I guess is that Mexico won't miss the final. Under that assumption every and all 3rd place matches are unattractive. When Mexico didn't make the finals, even the finals had poor attendance, even the CRC-USA final.

    /p
     
  23. JYDA

    JYDA Member

    Sep 10, 2003
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    3rd place matches suck no matter the tournament or even the sport for that matter. Two teams that are eliminated and no longer care just get prevented from going home.
     
  24. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    1994: Sweden 4-0 Bulgaria
    1998: Croatia 2-1 Netherlands
    2002: Turkey 3-2 South Korea
    2006: Germany 3-1 Portugal
    2010: Germany 3-2 Uruguay

    Yup, sounds like some sucky games if you ask me. :rolleyes:

    3rd-place matches in the World Cup (getting there is definitely an accomplishment) is another matter, though. I personally don't miss 3rd-place matches in the Gold Cup.
     
  25. PARS

    PARS Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Austin, TX
    Club:
    CF Rayados de Monterrey
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Re: Gold Cup 2011--USA Venues and groups??

    While there's some truth in this.

    A 3rd place match between Mexico and whatever, brings in a bigger crowd/TV ratings than a final between USA-CRC or CRC-HON or pretty much any CONCACAF combination you can imagine that does not include Mexico. So the reason is monetary, they hope that Mexico will make the final. So why bother.

    /p
     

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