Where are all the fall-to-spring schedule advocates?

Discussion in 'MLS: Commissioner - You be The Don' started by shooter6065, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. radmonkey

    radmonkey Member

    Oct 27, 2007
    The only thing we need to be aligned with is FIFA dates. The rest is just semantics.
     
  2. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    And increases schedule congestion; which is the reason we play on FIFA dates to begin with.

    So we are proposing July 9 to Nov 26 and March 5 to May 21. Or if you look at it this way; March 5 to May 21 and July 9 to Nov 26. This year we are starting March 15th and will end somewhere around November 19th. So the proposed schedule starts a week or 2 earlier and end a week later, but throws in 7 weeks where you aren't playing games. Net gain: -4 weeks.
     
  3. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone catch the "FEMA Responds to New Orleans snow dusting" feature on the Onion News Network last night? Hilarious.
     
  4. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I Disagree. The most important thing is to be aligned with player contracts. MLS relies heavily on free transfers/signing free agents. There are 100x more free agents in July/August every year than there are in January because most player contracts (outside the US) expire in the summer.

    Until MLS is somewhat aligned with the world schedule, teams won't be able to sign the Thierry Henrys of the world until mid season.
     
  5. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Fall-spring has the advantage of moving some fixtures to the preseason, like USOC and Euro friendlies. I mean, if MLS clubs are going to play warmup matches before the season, it's probably better to play against Euro clubs in sold out stadiums instead of against college teams. Not having to play college teams in the preseason reduces the number of fixtures.
     
  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Horrors!
     
  7. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok, bad choice of player. But you get the idea.
     
  8. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We are lined up plenty well with South America and Mexico.

    As far as I'm concerned that's all that matters.
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And Ireland, Finland, Norway, Sweden...
     
  10. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also true, I shouldn't forget that.
     
  11. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And China, Japan, and Korea.
     
  12. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    These threads are gonna pop up like amateur hour jokes about Al Gore when its cool in the summer.
     
  13. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How the rest of the world does things? Is that a joke or do you just really not know how the rest of the world does things? I mean, is there actually anybody other than Sepp Blatter that thinks the world plays Fall to Spring (in the Northern hemisphere mind you!)????

    Or more to the point. Which of these countries has a fall to spring league
    A) Brazil
    B) China
    C) Mexico
    D) Colombia
    E) Finland
    F) Norway
    G) Bolivia
    H) Chile
    I) Japan
    J) Korea
    K) Sweden
    L) Costa Rica

    I'll just stop there...
     
  14. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What?!?!?!?!?!
     
  15. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Understandable, but of the best 20 leagues in the world, all but two play fall to spring schedules.

    So does the rest of the world play fall to spring? No. Does most of the world play fall to spring? Most definitely.
     
  16. Ganapper

    Ganapper Member

    Apr 5, 2009
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And very few of those "20 best leagues" have players coming to MLS.

    So...why should we line up for the transfer window again?
     
  17. Freddy Garcia Lives

    Feb 28, 2003
    Tumwater, WA
    And no one has mentioned the great interest during a protracted winter break. Nothing gets the heart pumping like a 10 week break smack in the middle of the season. I know things shouldn't be done just because they are American (or Europoser also for that matter) but try explaining to a non soccer friend (if you don't have any, get a life), "Yeah I know the off season is shorter than the 'winter break' but it really helps our chances of getting an over the hill Euro star to play a WHOLE SEASON for our team. All we have to do is sit through 10 games at sub 50 degrees. Sweet!!!"

    Yosh may be fine with sitting in a down pour at 44 degrees in December, but part of what I love about the PacNW is the summer, I'd rather sit at Qwest in June than Dec.

    As for hot summer towns, I believe attendance (may be wrong) is worst in those cities in the colder spring games (C-bus was when I lived there). LAte summer and fall is when attendance rose.
     
  18. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Very true. Which is why I'm not in favor of changing our schedule...now. But in 10 years, hopefully, MLS will have more players going to and coming from the best 20 leagues in the world.
     
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  19. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What schedule does most of the continent known as America play? Do we play a similar schedule as our hemisphere? I mean if Japan, Brazil, and Mexico don't play that schedule (top leagues in Asia, South America, and North America) then that surely means something. If 5+ UEFA leagues don't play that schedule...

    We should never ever say "what do most people do" when we can say "what's best for us".

    BTW do people realize how many leagues have playoffs? (just saying)
     
  20. Eliezar

    Eliezar Member+

    Jan 27, 2002
    Houston
    Club:
    12 de Octubre
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe I just missed something, but I'm pretty sure that well I don't know say some guy named Torres moved from that red club near Everton to some blue Russian owned club in the middle of the season. Oh yeah and that guy that played next to Fabio's little brother for Uruguay I heard he moved to Liverpool...in the middle of the season. Actually, there are two transfer windows for a reason...middle of the season transfers happen though.

    So...I agree with you. 8)
     
  21. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't really get the idea. What was wrong with Henry signing mid-season?
     
  22. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem is that they propose a break mid-season that would actually exceed the length of the off season...

    They also propose scheduling options that would put teams on the road months at time.
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was In Sandiego last week, I see why the homeless people love that town, very nice weather.
     
  24. Prune

    Prune New Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Probably for the opportunity to pay 35m pounds for the likes of Andy Carroll.
     
  25. taboga

    taboga Member

    Dec 17, 2005
    Get retractable roofs and then the problem will be solved. One thing that needs changing though is how MLS CUP ends in November and the media does not care because American football dominates the entire month. If MLS CUP was in May there would be more TV ratings. The only benefit in the past playing in the summer was because most teams were playing in American college football stadiums and those lines are horrible looking. Now with every team having its own stadium there is more flexibility with scheduling. Also since most teams are in citities with not much snow it does not matter at all. Just have a 6 week time period where northeastern teams play on the road or have day games at peak temperatures.
     

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