Do you like the new Korea?

Discussion in 'Korea' started by Koreano, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. Koreano

    Koreano Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Club:
    Seongnam Ilhwa
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Another question for yall..

    Which team played more sexy football?

    Pohang 2009 or Team Korea 2011?

    For me Team Korea HANDS DOWN! Sorry Farias but I still respect you.
    Come to think of it, Farias being a technical advisor to Cho Gwang-rae would be fantastic! It won't be a long shot as Farias wouldn't mind leading the Korean team to Brazil neither. :cool:
     
  2. Koreano

    Koreano Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Club:
    Seongnam Ilhwa
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Thanks, although I should thank the person who gave it 5 stars :D

    Whoever you are, thanks.
     
  3. Seol Korea

    Seol Korea Member+

    Jun 24, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    and because of Pim, we were in a total goal drought and even till today, we're still having trouble scoring goals despite us attacking and creating a lot of chances and having said that, I think Bearbag's disease still lurks around within the KNT.

    agreed, we're entering a golden age for KF with new breeds of young talents on the rise, though some may consider the AC a mickey mouse tournament however this is an opportunity for our young players to prove what they got and better yet if we do win the whole thing, the confederations cup will be a big test for them before the WC in 2014.
     
  4. BENJMNS

    BENJMNS Member+

    Jun 8, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    call me simple-minded (i'm cool with that), but all this doesn't mean sh!t until we win something.

    let's go get ours. then i'll decide how i like the new team or not.

    sexy. ugly. smelly. erotic. sliced bread. ho-duk. whatever. just win.
     
  5. WuTang2002

    WuTang2002 Member

    Mar 13, 2002
    Bundang, Korea
    Good thread topic. I had to post for the first time after the world cup.

    The so called "Cartoon Football" by the words of Lee Chung Yong is indeed surprising. Not the style itself but how quickly the players have adapted to. This is not new. We have played like this in the past in the 80s (ok ok not exactly the same but similar) and in the early 90s. We dominated Asia with this style ending the decades of struggle- losing to the likes of Malaysia. But we couldn't compete in the world. We then switched to long-ball or 선 굵은 축구 after watching Germany's success.

    This pass-pass-pass-pass works against the weak sides but not against the top-20 withe the players we have. We still couldn't make enough of that last pass, the one that almost guarantees the goal.

    But to be fair, CKR didn't have that much time to build the team. If he has done this in just 3 months perhaps he can develop the team further in the next few months.
     
  6. Koreano

    Koreano Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Club:
    Seongnam Ilhwa
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    If I remember correctly, Cho Gwang-rae mentioned he will probably contemplate on lowering his expectation for now (tactically) to roll out less tactically heavy instructions in order for the NT players to fully adjust to Chong-yong's so called "cartoon" football. He has also mentioned he has probably over estimated his players tactical acumen and this is why he is starting off "simple" for the time being. I can't be bothered to dig up his interview, but it's probably @ the KFA site.

    In this sense he was naive in his own way, but he quickly realizes this and overcomes the problem. Just by this, I can tell that he is a quality manager. He doesn't just merely pick talented footballers, but footballers that are able to carry out his tactical game. Sort of like how Huh would solely base his tactics focused on player selection then matching them with their capable tactical capacity, while on the other hand Cho picks the strategy, philosophy and tactics and ENSURE they are able to carry it out on the pitch, which consequently also enhances the quality of play, and eventually the players themselves.

    Korean Football needed a manager like this who is foward looking, and not just churning out results.
     
  7. Mudang

    Mudang Member+

    Feb 16, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I thought Farias burned all his bridges back in Korea ... I still remember his abandonment of Pohang to the Middle East for a bigger paycheque.
     
  8. Sons of Thunder

    Sons of Thunder Member+

    Jun 27, 2009
    NY State of Mind
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I think it's nonsense to say that our system didn't work against Australia. We carved out some great chances with our intricate passing, and if Mark Schwarzer was our GK and Jung was their's the scoreline would have looked like yesterday's. All respect to Australia because they played a good game, but they went all Hack-a-Shaq on PJS in the second half and were willing to settle for a draw.

    That game also showed that for all the delightfulness of tiki-taka football, sometimes there's nothing better than a big fat direct ball punted down the field toward your center-forward. Watching that, I could imagine the Korean media labelling Ji Dong Won the "Korean Kevin Davies" lol. We shouldn't throw the baby out the bathwater, and as long as we're playing meaningful direct balls it would be unfair to call it 뻥축구. Finding a good blend of this may be our key to success, since mixing the 'Spanish' and 'Dutch' style is redundant as many have noted. It all came from the loins of Johan Cruyff. :)
     
  9. zdrav

    zdrav Member+

    Sep 9, 2009
    Villa's strong on the ball, but he's about as big as Park Ji Sung. Torres is big and strong, but he's always been second-banana for the Spaniards. Llorente is also big and strong, but he's not a starter.

    Spain's main attackers are Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro/Navas, and Villa. Not a single one of them is taller than 5'9" nor heavier than around 70 kg.
     
  10. Corporation X

    Corporation X Member+

    Sep 9, 2009
    Suckmydickastan
    They also can keep possession of the ball, for whatever reason - small as they might be, defenders can't just take it off of them.

    ^ Speed of thought is another asset.
     
  11. fiercejoy

    fiercejoy Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    we're missing that final incisive ball and inspired run, but that will come. for me, the only question is at the defensive end. as much as i want to see kjc and jdw get picked up by quality clubs in europe, i would be absolutely thrilled to see guys like hjh and kyk do well. and who will be our bad-ass, ball winning dmf?
     
  12. zdrav

    zdrav Member+

    Sep 9, 2009
    Smaller people have lower center of gravity and are harder to knock off the ball (provided they're able to use their size as an asset, not a liability).

    If Lionel Messi were as big as, say, Cristiano Ronaldo, he wouldn't have the same kind of glue-like ball control. The same probably goes for players like Xavi.
     
  13. pourmood

    pourmood Member

    Sep 6, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I love it because it's like seeing a non-stop motion of energy that is constantly exchanging and moving. This also fits with our current crop of players as we don't have players that posses the qualities of Nani/Ronaldo who can stop-go with the ball at any given moment. The synergy is very dynamic and very entertaining. If we have the season-ago-Rooney that used his head to score a majority of his goals, CDR or LCY would rack up tons of assists as well.
     
  14. dudedudedude

    dudedudedude Member+

    Aug 3, 2008
    Baltimore, MD
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I was always confused to how David villa scores so many goals. He's not incredibly fast. He's not tall. He's not physical. The guy has above average technical ability and great positioning. We need to create a David Villa on our team.
     
  15. the_14th_redneck

    the_14th_redneck New Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra

    Either you have it or you don't.
    And we don't have someone who's got it.
     
  16. gochujang

    gochujang Member

    Jun 4, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Yes we do:

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  17. the_14th_redneck

    the_14th_redneck New Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra

    my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  18. gochujang

    gochujang Member

    Jun 4, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
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  19. shinović89

    shinović89 Member+

    May 23, 2010
    Liverfail
    Yum is trying have a 2 for 1 deal with the greeks.
     
  20. the_14th_redneck

    the_14th_redneck New Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra
    learning about their culture and all...
     
  21. Mudang

    Mudang Member+

    Feb 16, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Shame he never learned how to use his right foot.
     
  22. the_14th_redneck

    the_14th_redneck New Member

    Dec 20, 2008
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra
    His left one isn't that great either.
     
  23. HwaRang

    HwaRang Member

    Feb 16, 2006
    Alexandria, Virginia
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    You often hear the phrase "has two left feet." This guy "has two retard feet."
     
  24. Koreano

    Koreano Member

    Jul 5, 2005
    Club:
    Seongnam Ilhwa
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    Now that the veterans are retired, we need to find a new system that can accommodate Ji Dong-won, Koo Ja-cheol and Park Chu-young all in the attacking line up. I'm thinking Park Chu-young would be more suited for that role given his mobility and speed. I would suspect Cho would put him in a free role, while Koo acting as a second striker behind Ji Dong-won.

    The other departments are rather straight forward, they would just need experience in that LB and RB positions.
     
  25. skimmilk

    skimmilk Member+

    Apr 22, 2010
    Texas, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea Republic
    I'd personally like to see 4-3-3 with
    EDIT: Can't figure out formation tool:

    Son/JDW/Nam - PCY - LCY
    Koo - Ki - LYR
    ? - ? - ? - ?

    It allows us to field a more 4-5-1 look (JDW/LCY sliding back, Koo/LYR sliding in) against teams with stronger midfields but perhaps allowing front line more offensive liberties, we can be more effective in the box. Maybe I'm giving our midfield too much credit.
     

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