Año Nuevo, vida nueva - the Argentine NT News, Stats & Players thread 2010-2011 Part II[R]

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by RacingGirl, Dec 21, 2010.

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  1. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    The fact that there is even people saying that Messi shouldn't have won the award with the year he had is what I am talking about. These are the very sentiments that add up over time.
     
  2. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Most of the people crying over the fact that Messi won the award are Spaniards who wanted someone from Spain to win. The are also Ronaldo, Portuguese and ManUtd fanboys crying about it. It's not surprising. It was completely expected. Messi being the best pisses a lot of people off. Haters gonna hate.
     
  3. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Cristiano is not going to win another one as long as Messi is there. So the Real Madrid fans as long as Spaniards and whomever need to

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    I am tired of their stupidity and being so damn blind.
     
  4. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    everytime there's a poll, Messi always came up on the top... whether its FIFA or goal.com or anything else... the fact is, there are more more people that hates Ronaldo. Also....FIFA love good boy image and Messi fit them even more which mean Ronaldo fans will keep crying even more over the next decade. If Ronaldo and Messi goalscoring statistic are identical (Let say one of them scoring slightly less or more), Messi will end up being on top.

    Dont forget Messi was runner twice at very young age when Kaka and Ronaldo wins it.. and once he really wins during the 6 thropies season, he made the rest looks like nothing on the poll result.

    Messi isnt going to stop scoring and assisting for Barca week after week... and after the WC, he seems already break that national team curse by scoring in victory over Spain and Brazil.
     
  5. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Exactly.

    2 for Newell'sOld Boys and 2 for River Plate. :D

    All this bollocks Barca created Messi. You watch him as a little five year old and the hallmarks are all already there. You cannot teach talent.

    Same as for all this bollocks di Stefano is Spanish or Sivori is Italian. They are as Argentine as they come.

    How Diego never won this award is mind boggling considering his performances in the late eighties.

    Also forgot to add when Messi plays deep the analysis shows he is just as good a passer as Xavi and infact makes more penetrating passes.
     
  6. msi2

    msi2 Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    Paris, FRANCE
    The award was reserved to european players only, until 1995 I guess.
     
  7. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    1991
     
  8. leomessi1919

    leomessi1919 New Member

    Jun 18, 2008
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    as you said. the only people crying about this were Marca people who wanted a spaniard to win. they had no problem mourinho won, there was no complaining that he shut out to spaniards, but because messi is a cule, they flipped out

    also i don't see messi actually going to madrid, i was just saying, he should go to another team and show people that barca would be no where without messi, just like they would have been no where 4 years ago without Dinho.

    All this nonsense about Barcelona being the greatest team ever, having the best academy ever, its all a bunch of BS to me. Barcelona is where it is as a club thanks to 3 foreigners: Cruyff, Ronaldinho, and Messi. Cruyff as a coach changed the club, Dinho got them the world wide popularity, and now messi is Dinho's equal, soon to surpass him. Xavi people forget was way down the pecking order in 2006. messi as an 18 year old was more important to that team than xavi. xavi to me is the most overrated player of all-time.

    also this award is a complete joke. IN 2007, the best player in the world was riquelme, but because he wasn't playing in Europe he didn't get the award. If its the world player of the year, it shouldn't matter where you play, especially considering what riquelme accomplished that year for club and country. Messi finished 2nd in voting, and Riquelme scored 5 goals and 5 assists in the same tournament but wasn't even in the voting :rolleyes: it was then i realized this award is a joke. the national team captain of the seychells gets a say in who wins, nuff said
     
  9. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    the way barca dominated possession, they definetely not relying on one player. But whoever said its always their youth product that become best in the world is a dumbass... Romario, Maradona, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi... lets face it, Brazil and Argentina always produce the best on the planet not Spain... or England
     
  10. Volrath

    Volrath Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Gaby Milito is probably going to Malaga.
     
  11. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I heard Genoa wants him too. On any case he'd go on loan until the end of the season. Boselli will go on loan to Genoa.
     
  12. King Aguero

    King Aguero New Member

    May 22, 2008
    This is off topic but other than Zabaleta and Ansaldi do we actually have any RB/LB worth a look in our league?
     
  13. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Tevez scored 2 goals, the first one is a superb solo goal
    Zabaleta assisted the second with great cross
     
  14. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Papa, Ferrari, Cubero, Mareque ...
     
  15. King Aguero

    King Aguero New Member

    May 22, 2008

    I dont mind Ferrari and maybe Gaston Diaz but Mareque, Papa, Cubero? seriously?
     
  16. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Yeah all three are definitely worth a look.
     
  17. Volrath

    Volrath Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Your Velez bias is showing ;)
     
  18. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Maybe a little but then again we are playing really well. If we werent then I probably wouldn't mention them. I forgot to mention Clemente. I also wanted to mention Angeleri but he's not domestic anymore.
     
  19. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Milito looks much better under Leonardo. He scored today and set up a nice goal for Eto'o with a backheel.
     
  20. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    Angeleri is eating the bench at Sunderland. Bad move for him. He should have gone to La Liga.
     
  21. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Definitely a bad move. The injury that kept him from La Seleccion also sidelined his career.
     
  22. NYC_COSMOS

    NYC_COSMOS BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 13, 2007
    Queens, NY
    Club:
    CA Vélez Sársfield
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I haven't seen Leonardo's Inter, do you think it has a chance in Serie A?
     
  23. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Member+

    Dec 5, 2005
    Macondo
    They've only played I think 3 matches in Serie A with Leonardo. Cambiasso actually scored 3 goals in 2 of them.

    But they look good and Sneijder isn't even fit and hasn't played under Leonardo. They might make a pull at the end but right now they're a bit far from the leaders.
     
  24. Volrath

    Volrath Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    They are 8 points behind with a game in hand. So they might make it if Milan slips up.

    Also what an absolute legend Zanetti is, the man gets better with age like a fine wine. What the hell was Diego smoking when he left him out of the world cup?
     
  25. King Aguero

    King Aguero New Member

    May 22, 2008

    They're missing 2 matches. So if they play both of those matches and win one of them they'll probably be like 5 points behind Milan
     

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