Krafty Leverage

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by SeñorFutbol, Jan 4, 2011.

  1. SeñorFutbol

    SeñorFutbol Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    I understand that MLS & NFL are completely separate entities and Kraft has done his best to keep it that way for accounting purposes.

    With Pats playoff tickets coming on sale this Fri. I've often wondered why Krafty hasn't used his parent company to help the red headed step child mature into a strapping young lad of a franchise.

    The FO has utilized Gillette events in recent years to offer Revs STH pre-purchase opportunities. I think I've seen it done once for a Pats game (preseason?) Why not let it go both ways. Offer STHs from both teams opportunities to exchange or resell to each other? Prepublic offers to reward STHs for their investment to the franchise.

    If folks knew they had some access to the Pats via the Revs it might entice some pointy ball fans to come check out the Revs during the summer.

    The Revs need all the help they can get to get people in the door. If it means using another sport/team to do so then I'm all for it.
     
  2. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well the online Pro Shops are joined at the hip! :D
     
  3. kazakal28

    kazakal28 Member

    Feb 22, 2008
    Weymouth
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We have access to Patriots Tix Exchange already................. I think.
     
  4. Alan

    Alan Titanium Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In my 15 years, I've witnessed more than my share of crossover, ticket-deal, fat guys with their fat little kids all decked out in Brady wear, spending the entire game heckling the sport, announcing the 'low score', and faking 'Sock-ah' play by play in a British accent.

    IMHO, let the bashers and nitwits stay on their side of the fence. Just more of the casual one timers we don't need.
     
  5. neophilus

    neophilus Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    Methuen, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So instead of NFL preseason tickets force the Patriot season ticket holders to buy Revolution tix every year? :)
     
  6. The Perfesser

    The Perfesser New Member

    May 23, 1999
    AthensGA/NewburyptMA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then Gillette would really be a morgue when these guys showed up.
     
  7. SeñorFutbol

    SeñorFutbol Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Just got an email from the FO granting access to pre-sale tix to Pats playoff game next Sunday.

    I'm taking advantage of it b/c it's a playoff situation, Brady era etc.

    It's a nice little incentive as a Revs STH IMO. I'll probably wear my Revs Winter hat to represent.
     
  8. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Pats are also allowing their season ticket holders to buy extra tickets this year. In other words ... ticket didn't sell well for the playoffs.
     
  9. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm, why is that? I would think that the Pats would be the hottest ticket in town, given their current form. How much did they jack up the prices compared to the usual playoff increase?
     
  10. bwidell

    bwidell Member+

    Apr 19, 2005
    Manchester, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure what the usual price is, but...

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  11. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be completely fair, the prices are set by the NFL, not by the team. But yes, they're extremely high. My season tickets (section 135) are usually $169 per game. For the first playoff game, they're I believe $174 and for the second (the AFC Championship game I really hope they play in) it's $198. Season tickets (or tickets for the playoff games) are NOT discounted. So the divisional game prices that are being offered in this are actually higher than what the season ticket holders paid (which is face value).

    I used to have seats in the 100 corners, which were $117 per game, so that's a pretty hefty markup to $150.

    Of course, the fact that our ticket prices are so high doesn't exactly help here anyway.

    Here's the Ravens release.
     
  12. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, I got my Revoluton stuff delivered for the new season. Here's a copy of the confirmation:

    SHIPMENT NOTIFICATION

    This is to notify you of a pending delivery from:

    Sender: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
    FOXBORO, MA 02035
    Shipment Date: 12/30/10 Boxes shipped: 1
    Delivery Date (Est.): 01/03/11

    Carrier: USPS Manifesting ORIGIN 02035
    Service: 1M
    Tracking #: 9101076584408204765542

    Thanks, Patriots for sending my Rev stuff. ;)
     
  13. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Monty, I was in 140 for a couple of games this year and they were right around $117 per. You're right that it's a hefty markup, but it's what the market will bear -- guaranteed every seat is sold (and that $150 ticket may go for $200 on stubhub).
     
  14. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't doubt any of that. The problem becomes for those that have season tickets, the invoice for the playoffs is due right before Christmas and that's kind of a tough time to have to pay for both possible games (you have to pay for both, not just one).
     
  15. SeñorFutbol

    SeñorFutbol Member

    Feb 15, 2006
    Funny how I dropped $200 instantly for 2 tix to 1 Pats game and yet I'm struggling very hard to come up with good reasons to spend the same amount and renew for an entire season of Revs games.

    I wish it were the opposite. It was in the past.
     
  16. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My brother, who is keeper of the family NY Giants tickets, bought playoff tickets just before the Philadelphia game.

    I've been going to Giants' games long enough to say that wasn't the first time I've seen a last minute winning touchdown for the Eagles after a NY player (or two) effed-up.
     
  17. Beez

    Beez Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    'Cause it's a much better game on TV, and going to an NFL game (especially at that venue) is an all-day affair that's more trouble than it's worth? Just a guess.
     
  18. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Except that season ticket holders didn't pick up their playoff tickets, so that really doesn't apply IMO. If you're willing to go to 8 games, what's one (or two) more, especially when they really count like this one does?
     
  19. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Am with you Alan...

    Was at a couple of games with a friend that had "red" seats...Morons who follow pointy ball sitting a few seats in front of us had no idea which team the Revs were...Of course every once in a while and especially when Chivas scored, I'd yell out "Kraft Sucks" & "Get some players Krafty"...Loved the looks from the dingleberries!! No words exchanged!!

    Why don't they just keep to the "entertainment event" that they like and understand? I don't get it. Same guy that has the "red" seats asked me a couple of times if I wanted to go to a pats game..and I'm like, no thanks, I'd rather see the jonas brothers and miley cyrus, before going to see the beiber wannabe!! LOL He doesn't ask me anymore!!
     
  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Like that time in the late 70s when the Giants were up by 4-5 points with seconds to go, and they had the ball? All they had to do was take the knee, but instead, Joe Pisarcyk handed the ball off to one of the backs and he fumbled. :eek: An Eagle scooped up the ball on one bounce and ran for the game winning TD.

    That was like Avery John getting his head on the ball just enough to make a deflection.... right to Brian Ching :(
     
  21. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Herman Edwards ran that in! Loved every minute of it. Miracle in the Meadowlands!
     
  22. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was there. The family seats are behind the end zone Herm Edwards ran into.

    Mind you, it set in motion a chain of events that turned the team around. Still, it was a pretty stunning experience for a 13-year-old boy. So glad my kids got the chance to feel that kind of agony.

    And the running back was Larry Csonka.
     
  23. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll just comfort myself with the knowledge of those three Super Bowl wins the Giants have had since then.
     
  24. Beez

    Beez Member

    Dec 20, 1999
    The question is, how many of those eight games did the STHs actually go to? If you only went to 4-5 games and sold/gave away the other games (perhaps because of the factors I mentioned earlier), maybe you're less inclined to pay for the playoff tickets.
     
  25. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I suppose there's two sides to that too. Those that don't go, usually sell to other friends. If that's the case, then those friends would probably be interested in going to the playoff games, and it's a lot easier for the STH to get the tickets for them than do it on your own. Of course if you just sold the tickets to random people to make money off the deal, then it doesn't matter.

    As an example, I went to 7 of the 8 regular season games this year. There's no chance that I'd let my tickets go, as long as I could pay by the deadline, as even if I can't afford the games, I would sell them to friends at face value, allowing them to experience it.
     

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