The Other Teams News and Results Thread Vol. II [R]

Juve tied it in the 84th.

 

Credit to Cuper actually for exposing their weaknesses but Madrid has been quite sloppy at times. They're not playing badly but certainly not as good as they should and could. I think a certain bit of of arrogance on their part too, thinking they would be through quite easy.

these results are really making the next match a must win. very exciting, a true test for Leverkusen.

 

Leverkusen are through anyway and as first in their group. So I think they could care less about that match. Same goes for Rosenborg though. So if both win then probably Saloniki will be through as second placed team.

 

ah you're right. apologies. Leverkusen actually winning the group with 11 points. Stuttgart would finish first with one point in the next match.

Dortmund need a result badly tomorrow and must rely on PSG or Sevilla losing.

 

No worries. Yep, Dortmund have their work cut out for them.

Edit: BTW, Dortmund can still make it through even if Sevilla or PSG tie. Of course, they have to win against Karpaty, which honestly is the minimum requirement to advance to the next round.

 

Stuttgart will win the group no matter the result due to their superior head to head record.

Juve are out.

 

^^ Good call. Missed the head to head there in both cases.

 

No shite, he's on fire! The kid can shoot and today was not surprisingly another nice one.

http://www.101greatgoals.com/videodisplay/sidney-sam-rosenborg-7723149/

 

Dortmund can make it through no matter what their result is. They have to win both of their last 2 matches, simple as.

 

I wonder how Atletico managed to lose this one . Aris is pretty bad this year...

 

Yup, that's all folks.

But anyway, hitting back at the Italy-Germany UEFA Coefficient rivalry.

Sampdoria and Juve are out and it looks like Napoli could be as well. They have only played 4 matches but have yet to win having 3 points from 3 draws and a lose.

 

It is possible that no Italian team makes it to the next round, I see opportunities for the German teams , expecially when Dortmund wins the last 2 games.

 

it's really in their hands but I simply don't trust them to win both matches, especially since the last one is arguably their most difficult in the group, away to Sevilla. So I'm certainly hoping for some luck as well.

 

Palermo and Napoli are 3rd in their group and they need results tomorrow.

Dortmund might win their last 2 games and not qualify. If PSG lose tommorow and win their last game. Dortmund would be out regardless of other results. This is not impossible since they play Sevilla in Spain (likely loss) and Karpaty Lviv at home in Paris (A likely win)

 

Dortmund's last match will be every difficult. It will be an away match at Sevilla.

 

SirManchester is right when he says we have terrible, United's the prime examples of where we need to be

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TtruzMfXZU&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - John O'Shea shot v West Ham - worst shot ever[/ame]

14th second: "not his best effort"

 

Must have had a snow flake in his eye

 

...that's not even English.

 

depth*

 

United is a giant regressive mess at the moment. I think that's been quite obvious for two months now.

 

What does that say of the EPL if they are on top of the league right now.

Italy is a huge mess as well. Milan seems to be overrated just cause they are on top. Look at the EC results. Seria A's #3 Juve can't even make it out of the group.

One of the things hurting the EPL is the low British pound compared to the Euro right now in getting stars to go there. Also the debt level is hurting clubs in being able to attract new stars.

If the BL plays it's cards right it could really be on the upswing for some good time. Let's hope BL clubs can do some damage in the EC going forward.

 

I am quite surprised United is still unbeaten. For one thing they haven't been this unstable in 5 years and with Rio's back, Rooney's drop in form, Berbatov's inconsistency, Evra and Fletcher's poor form, Valencia's absence, nonexistent midfield and always changing backline, some credit must be given to them for staying on top.

Then again they've got Nani who has been sensational this entire calendar year, Rio when playing, exceptional (something like 800 minutes without conceding a foul) Park and Vidic scoring huge goals, and Berba every now and then putting in world class performances. Moreover United should have lost on three occasions already this season with some dreadful performances but managed to get away with points.

I think it speaks volumes that there's not a surefire runaway leader and just how competitive the league actually got in the last year and a half. Even the likes of Chelsea are feeling it, and sides like them, City, Arsenal, Spurs are losing every now and then to smaller or mid table teams. Ultimately what it comes down to is that Chelsea's injuries and lack of really getting some more quality signings and just how much better mid table sides and CL hopefuls City and Spurs became made it that much more competitive this season.

 

Doesn't necessarily work that way....
Liverpool were 5th the season they won the CL.
Dortmund are head and shoulders above everyone else in the BuLi right now, and there is a very large chance that they crash out at the group stages of the Europa Cup. What does that say about the BuLi?

Thats a good point. Never thought of it in that manner. But a weak BP also means that the players earn lesser than what they would otherwise. That could deter a move to the EPL.

 

^^ Liverpool were 5th behind EVerton in 2005

 

I know there are many fans of Seria A and La Liga, but overall both leagues are struggling mightily.

Most clubs have big mountains of debt, soccer stadiums are old, and money sources are drying up.

There is no parity in regards to TV revenue sharing which has really formed a divide between the have and have not. I believe that Italy just implemented a more equal revenue sharing plan for TV or is trying to. Only having few super rich clubs hurts everybody in the long run.

I am curious to see what Seria A and La Liga look like in 5 to 10 years. Seria A is supposedly going on strike on gameday 16 because many players from Seria A to Seria C are owed much of their wages.

Many players in Spain get their wages with huge delays from La Liga to La Segunda. Barca had to take on a 150M loan to make sure players got paid. Now Barca is in a stronger position because of Brand name and success but a recent study by a Spanish economist of the University of Barcelona pretty much determined that most clubs in Spain would classify as being "bankrupt" because there is almost no way that they can repay their debt since they still spend more than they make and are just servicing it by paying the interest.

Those here in the US know all to well what happens with that in the longrun. The bubble bursts and the shit hits the fan. I guess figuratively and literally.