The 136 situation

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  1. nevernight

    nevernight New Member

    May 28, 2009
    Coatesville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I really don't see what the issue with the chugging thing is. The people around there enjoy it, it's only a few of us, and it's not audible outside the general area where it's happening. It's not like it's a chant we're trying to get started in the whole section. You have to have some leeway for people to be themselves, even if who you are isn't who they are.

    YSA I agree with. I enjoy the 136 Aint nuttin to ******** with chant though. *shrug* I guess I just don't see what the big deal is if these chants aren't audible outside the River End or on TV.
     
  2. timnumbertwo

    timnumbertwo Guest

    2 cents.

    Its obvious, but organization is key and it will be tough to organize such a large group of people...but i believe it can be done. I am keeping my fingers crossed that when my turn in line comes to pick up season tickets for next year that I can step in and take the seats of some of the people that aren't doing anything but standing in the RE. I would love to help out and bring along a drum to help nudge people along into cheering. It kills me to watch some of the RE doing nothing from other parts of the stadium when if 80% of the RE did anything in complete unison it would blow the fuggin' walls down. i think there are going to be some struggles for the SOBs/RE, it the first year at a new home. things really can only get better though. im sure there are a ton of creative minds in the SOBs who can organize chant sheets, get chants up on the web(with music) not just lyrics, for everyone to learn. not everyone is going to agree on everything and creating issues amongst each other will not help bring any unity in the RE. im super excited for the last match of the year and even moreso looking fwd to next year, i really think things can only get better with time..we just need to work on it.
     
  3. slitz

    slitz Member+

    Feb 19, 2005
    Red City, 140
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    be careful generalizing like that. they are several very enthusiastic SoBs who do alot for the organization that sit in last row of 137
     
  4. The Baron

    The Baron New Member

    Jun 10, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to make this quick. So you know its going to be a long.

    1. "Score a goal" is (was) the best chant we have. Its gone, ****.
    2. Why are we getting so much crap from the FO when at the Colorado game, on 6 abc live well, YSA was heard loud and clear. And they threw streamers on the field (I want to do this).
    3. We threw streamers when we went to the bed pan no problem.
    4. When there is any kind of altercation, the SOBs get the rap not the out of town fellas. See Columbus and Chicago.
    5. What's the point of doing the same 3 chants for 90 minutes.
    6. What happened to all of the many many many many becham chants that we had ready to go.
    7. Who wants to pay for season tickets and then not watch the match in order to keep everyone on the same page.
    8. continuing from 7... why do we change// take so long to do chants that we know are coming. We do the same chant on corners and set peaces.
    9. Can we sing god bless America at every match.
    10. What happened to when the SOBs belittled opponent players. See, Marshall (for baltimore??) and Barbosa (Chrystal palace??) Tumor (who cares). they were mostly clean but very effective. and there were 30? of us. can't 2000 accomplish something.
    11. Why don't we have some form of humiliating chant prepared when We Know the opponents goalie will be standing in front of us for 45 mins.
    12. When we go over songs at the tailgate why don't we use them?
    13. Lets get more people out to the tailgate.
    14. When will we get that tailgate are back. Or better yet lets push for that area behind the river end.
    15. 136 kills it. if red bulls wasn't the last game I'd suggest the silent treatment.
    16. What Do we do on goal kicks? I know what we are not supposed to do, but its fun to do bad things.
    17. You can say Ass on tv. You Suck Ass?
    18. If we hate the English so much why do we Do that One more than you song? PS I dislike England (the football team).
    19. The English guy in 136 was legit. When he was escorted out, he went to the store and bought some union schwag. Told me it was to wear to the next game to prevent a problem. I hope he's there for RB.
    20. We only have 1 game left. Can we look forward to ensuring RB fans feel welcome and have a comfortable game day experience.

    Lets go mental one last time and We'll have the whole off season to put out any fires.

    Oh and why can the fire fans Chant in the concourse but WE cant?


    *** edit. I don't want that video in the middle of the screen. I would like people to be able to click on the link and go check it out. That whole in bedded video crap is a waste of time.
     
  5. Mtshark

    Mtshark Member

    Jul 22, 2008
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    FC Luzern
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Matt,

    Words fail me... Of course he'll get ripped for getting an opposing player to sign something. A big part of what we do is rip in to people who show support for the other team. I was not there, so I don't know the extent of the abuse he took. But he was showing support for an opposing player. Why should there be any exceptions?
     
  6. nevernight

    nevernight New Member

    May 28, 2009
    Coatesville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One point to the people who have issues with a lot of what's done in Section 136: Each section has a topic on these boards for issues in it. The Section 136 thread hasn't been updated since mid August. If you have something that's bothering you, it's a lot more effective to let people know, rather than letting it fester then piling on all at once.
     
  7. mansbro

    mansbro Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Hatboro, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Listen, I hear yah. I ripped him as well. But, what happened was over the top and if the clown wasn't on the other side of 137 there most likely would have been a fight it was that bad. If it was just as simple as people getting on him I wouldn't have brought it up.
     
  8. CrazyUnionBox

    CrazyUnionBox Member

    Mar 14, 2007
    137 Seat 1
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree, if it is not audible it would not be an issue. The problem is when we are trying to be one voice and the chugging chants starts or if the "136 ain't nuttin to F with" catches on and it becomes audible. When the drummers pick it up it starts picking up steam and can get loud.
    I am a big advocate of the one voice is stronger then 3000 different voices.

    All of this takes time and I want the charismatic 136 group to be with us and not try to fight us. Sometimes it feels as you are giving the rest of us the finger and doing your own thing.

    If we replace all Fing words with DOOPin then it might be alright :)
     
  9. GSSMember

    GSSMember New Member

    Aug 11, 2010
    North End
    Club:
    N. O. Shell Shockers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey mate, i'm not trying to trumpsnlane in your forum here, but in all honesty that is part of football (soccer). That is why once you guys have been around for a few more years you will have your supporter sections and then you have the rest of the sections for the guys who don't want to hear it.. cheers mate... see you boys in a week or so..
     
  10. sccaflagger74

    sccaflagger74 Member

    Apr 24, 2005
    Media, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since this was brought up I'll respond. I was that guy ripping into Corey and I'm glad I did it (though my wife is not). Bringing a Galaxy jersey into the River End for Goldenballs to sign is completely unacceptable to me. If he wants to get an autograph from the enemy go hang by the fence near the team bus with all the other star struck fans. I find it offensive that the lead capo would do such a thing. That is one of the reasons why I stated in an earlier post today that I must have a different idea of what a supporters section should be.
     
  11. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't there a time and place for stuff like this? I don't think it's harrassment to give someone hell for getting an opposing teams shirt signed, especially in the RE. Just bad form.
     
  12. nevernight

    nevernight New Member

    May 28, 2009
    Coatesville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Generally I agree. And generally, I'm the guy in the middle of all that trying to get people back onto the same page with what I'm seeing 137 doing. 136 definitely does tend to operate the best when that group is trying to rally those behind us to be loud and on with what the other sections are doing, and there were times last night I thought they/we did a pretty good job with that.

    By not audible, I mainly meant outside the River End or on TV. I can see how it'd be frustrating though if it's making it so you can't hear or follow the chants being started in 137. This is one reason I think there really should be a capo halfway up between 136 and 137, to make it easier for people to see what they should be doing.

    I'd also really like it if the capos had signs to hold up for what song we're doing, similar to the one Corey holds up for 4LC. It can be hard sometimes to tell what the song is just reading the lips of a capo that's far away from you. Often the separate chants start because we can't hear what the other song is and want to do something. That, or we start a song first, during a quiet moment, then another song overtakes it. Or, I suppose, if we're tired of doing the same simple chant for the 10th time that game.
     
  13. CrazyUnionBox

    CrazyUnionBox Member

    Mar 14, 2007
    137 Seat 1
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I did not see what went on but if Corey was just getting an Autograph he should get the same type of abuse that he got when there was a picture of him wearing a Beckham jersey.
    Something over the top must have happened but teasing him and giving him a hard time is another thing. If Matt called it harassment then something was over the line.
     
  14. tehgraarg

    tehgraarg Member

    Feb 9, 2006
    West Berlin, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please can we stop with trying to replace Doop with everything we do. There is such a thing as going overboard.

    Plus I think it is extremely childish and sounds dumb to replace the F word with Doop. I would rather just not sing the chant and find something else.
     
  15. yahmpy

    yahmpy New Member

    Feb 22, 2008
    New Jersey
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm really torn on this.

    I felt really bad for Corey, he was genuinely upset, and nobody can slag how much he does for the SoBs. Ever.

    That being said, there was alot of noise made about us SoB/Celtic guys when the hoops came to town, and how we were supposed to tow the line for the U (remember the 'nack quote "we don't care what other club you support"?).

    Should it be any different for individual players of other teams?
     
  16. ToonArmy5

    ToonArmy5 Member

    Oct 22, 2007
    Warminster
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    this is exactly what i meant in the post that started this thread. you just managed to do it without ranting


    that dude is so legit. thats why i was so pissed that people we're being dickheads to him. the dude served 7 (i think) years in the US air force and people are making fun of him for being British.
     
  17. Dbird76

    May 12, 2009
    Buggytopia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ?????????????

    Myself, the Brothers Laudy plus last night Brendan Mulligan & Kyle took up almost half of 137 - P, who are you talking about?

    Other than that, the energy from 136 is great, but for the love of Jah stop doing the friggin DC United chant!!! Maybe we should do Vamos Union too...
     
  18. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People keep saying "The DCU Chant". Which one do you mean particularly? I know there are a bunch we stole from the National Team supporters and DC does some of those too.
     
  19. ofeydofey

    ofeydofey BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 6, 2010
    Cinnaminson
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    according to tehgraarg, the DCU chant was comming from the speakers...


    buzz, the one that is being done on corner kicks... whoooooooo oooowha
     
  20. mansbro

    mansbro Member

    Apr 25, 2007
    Hatboro, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I said this previously but I don't have any issue with you, or anyone else, ripping him (I have video of him getting the shirt signed that I'll be using periodically to remind him about it) but the route you took to do it was over the line. Attacking your own guy like that was uncalled for no matter how "offensive" you found it. Especially with it being Corey. I get your point about the perception of our lead Capo doing that's an argument for another day, but the main point is if you have Bryan and other from the other side of 137 calling you out for doing that then you should know that it was bad form on your part.
     
  21. bluetooner

    bluetooner Member

    Nov 7, 2008
    Carteret NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland

    There are really people making fun of him because he is British?

    That is where the "self policing" that should come into it - and those doing the harrassing should be made to stop. It is pathetic.
     
  22. Dbird76

    May 12, 2009
    Buggytopia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1320227&page=144

    See my post, 2nd one down. It's not one of the USMNT chants we use...
     
  23. TheModernHypocrites

    TheModernHypocrites New Member

    Apr 15, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I sit in 133 with the Away Support and almost ALL of our chants are from other teams... C'mon the U & F'in Mental are about the only ones specific to us. Everyone else does... Marching In... We Love Ya... (Team Name) Clap Clap CLAPCLAP Clap... etc... Seems to be the same around the WHOLE MLS.
     
  24. buzzkiller23

    buzzkiller23 Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Glenolden, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What did he do other than say some things? Did he try to pick a fight? There is a reason they don't allow opposing fans in the SS. This kinda falls under that catagory.
     
  25. Dbird76

    May 12, 2009
    Buggytopia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, that's all well & good that we do these MLS wide "standards", but this one is DCU specific, and not sure if you all know this, DCU is one of our biggest rivals.

    Like I said in the song/chants thread, it's not like Barra Brava is doing Dale-O or 4LC
     

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